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What must Israel do for the world to condemn them?

That I can't answer. But, I can say with confidence:

Never, EVER, EVER trust a murderous liar.

You might know it by instinct, but it bears repeating - if you know that they murder and you know that they lie, then you ought to know NEVER to trust them.
What the fuck does a guy gotta do to get arrested in Milwaukee?

Around 2:00 AM on May 27, 1991 Milwaukee resident Sandra Smith called 911. She had encountered a young boy staggering around "butt naked" on the corner of 25th and State and bleeding out of his ass. Paramedics showed up and wrapped the incoherent 14-year-old in a blanket. Police arrived soon thereafter, as did Jeffrey Dahmer.

Jeffrey forked over his ID and told the cops that the kid was his 19-year-old gay lover. Dahmer said that his boyfriend had gotten hammered on booze and just wandered away. Despite the protestations of witnesses at the scene, the cops figured this was just a fag thing and escorted the kid back to Jeffrey's apartment.
Back to the future . . .
At least 106 Palestinians and [only] one Israeli soldier have now been killed in the impoverished territory since Israel on July 5 stepped up its offensive with the aim of retrieving a missing soldier and stopping rocket fire.

The Jewish state has ignored repeated international calls for restraint, and the latest Palestinians to die -- a militant from the armed wing of the governing Hamas, and his family -- were killed when their home came under tank fire.

Medical sources said that besides the militant, whose armed wing claimed joint responsibility for the capture of the missing teenage Israeli soldier, his mother and two other members of the family were killed.

Another three people, including a three-year-old girl, were wounded in the blast, one day after the Israeli military warned that civilian homes storing weapons and sheltering "terrorists" were now a target.
Assuming arguendo, that there is anything wrong with capturing an armed soldier, and assuming further that this so-called 'militant' who they killed had anything whatsoever to do with the capture of this "teenage Israeli soldier," how does that justify killing his mother and other family members and injuring toddlers in their neighborhood???

Of course, it does not and never will.

But, like I said, Isreal's most effective weapon is their LIES.
After the Palestinians reported the four deaths, the army said two men armed with an anti-tank missile had been spotted on the balcony of a house ready to fire at forces operating in the northern Gaza Strip.

"The force responded with tank fire and identified hitting them. One of them is a Hamas terrorist," a spokeswoman said, accusing Palestinian "terrorists" of operating from within the civilian population.
Nevermind that when you are defending your home, by definition you must operate from it.

Israeli logic is sick and twisted.
Israel on Thursday dropped leaflets over Gaza warning that homes storing weapons were now a target and urged civilians to leave for their own safety.
Leave to where??? Palestinians are holed in on every border. Their fate is sealed.

What a cruel and murderous farce!
Ground troops on Friday were operating in southern Gaza and the Karni area, east of Gaza City, looking for tunnels and explosives, having withdrawn overnight from the Maghazi refugee camp after a bloody two-day incursion.

A local official from UNRWA, the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, said 16 hectares (40 acres) of fields, mostly olive groves, were ravaged in the operation and that around 10 homes had been damaged by tanks and bulldozers.

"It's like a tsunami. Eight dunums (0.8 hectares) of olive trees belonging to me have been destroyed," said local resident Abdelrahim Said.
Are Isrealis afraid that olives might be lobbed over the border and stain their precious verandas?
A second front in Lebanon, where the Israeli military is battling Hezbollah guerrillas, who captured another two servicemen on July 12, has killed at least 330 Lebanese and 33 Israelis.
That's a death toll of 10 to 1 in Lebanon and 100 to 1 in Palestine. Yet, Israelis insist that they're justified.

Who do you trust - the facts or their justifications?

If Israel can get away with killing thousands, destroying Lebanon, and displacing hundreds of thousands, to echoe our friends at rotten.com, What the f*ck must Israel do for the world to condemn them?
The defense dragged up Jeffrey's childhood. Evidently he had enjoyed killing and torturing small animals as a kid, while jacking off at the same time. They pointed out Dahmer's persistent attempts to create a "zombie" sex slave by drilling into his (live) victim's head and pouring acid into the hole. Not exactly the work of a sane man, they argued. But the jury decided otherwise. Jeffrey received 15 consecutive life sentences, making him eligible for parole sometime in Hell.


At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as a Jewish crime. Those filthy arabs are trying to live on Jewish soil. Remember your place gentile slime.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been reading the Talmud lately?

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Freaky Dick's Chimp said...

LOL. Troll alert!

How is it "Jewish soil" when the Roman s kicked them off it back in the day? On the other hand, maybe you're on to something: How about the Seminole Indians and the alligators kick the fat white people out of Florida and reclaim it? For that matter, let's return all the white people to Europe. To follow this to its logical conclusion, ALL people should move back to Africa, while the rest of the world returns to its pristine state.

Get a grip. Racism and Fascism, like organized religion, no longer serve our evolution as a species, and rightfully belong in the landfill of history's failed ideas.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everybody needs to get a grip. This shit going on is just childish. I hope the whole place goes up in flames. I have had enough of the jews saying it is their land and shit. I am also tired of the arabs crying about the "jewish crimes". Let them fight and die for their stupid reasons. Why pick sides?

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Would I Shit You, Alice? said...

Binny and the Jets- Binyamin Netanyahu makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Beaver Cleaver on a cakewalk in the park.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think he just got back from the holocaust museum; there wasn't any German in sight so he shot the nearest stone wielding Palestinian.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

This maybe a child but that does not make her death childish.

We already picked sides by arming Zionists to the teeth, murdering tens of thousands of Iraqis on their behalf, and allowing them to destroy Palestine and Lebanon.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why pick sides???? Because Israel's operatives, the neo-conservatives inside the U.S. have dragged us into Iraq and now threaten to drag us into Iran and Syria.

It's OUR KIDS' LIVES ON THE LINE -- that's why we have to stand up to Israel today.

Toll free number for congress:

866 340 9279

You have 2 hours to call today (Friday) to set those traitors in Congress straight about how we will hold their as*ses accountable if they don't stop Israel.

Otherwise, call first thing Monday AM, and don't call just your own congress reps. CALL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Listen up people -- we're talking World War III here, all because our so-called "elected representatives" will not stand up to the pro-Israel lobbies.


At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. I didn't arm anyone.
2. I got better things to do than make useless calls to politians that are already bought.
3. It is childish to fight like they do in the middle east.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What absolute trash. Anti-Semitics hiding behind garbage.

Of course we all know that nobody in the world lies except Israel, I said sarcastically.

Russia, China, all Muslim Countries, Hamas, Etc. Never ever lie. Well hang on to that dream.

May the Lord rebuke you all!

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yea, and all those kids in the military that are going to go over to fight.... have fun you stupid pawns.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Blogger Akber said...

This is genocide, to make up for Israel's low birth rate. Very simple.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares???? The DU will get all of them later. Tee hee. Jews and yanks aren't so smart. I love cancer.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

American Christian in rapture.

"Dear Jesus. Please accept these Muslim bodies in your holy name. Praise God for giving us the courage to allow all these women and children to be burned alive and torn into little bits and sent to hell for you dear Jesus so you will return and take us away from all this we created and take us up to paradise. Some crazy folks think they will have 70 virgins waiting for them to be sacrificed but only the devil will be waiting for them because they chose to believe the lie. Dear Jesus, we will continue to kill all others who are not jews and christians until your return because we are American and we get what we want and we don't take shit from anyone. HEY GOD , WHAT'S TAKING YOU SO LONG , YOU ARE GOING TO RETURN JESUS NOW AND WE SHALL FORCE YOU TO DO SO. YOU GOT THAT GOD!!"

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey American Christian in rapture,
Did you know Muslims also believe Jesus will return? Now, ask your Jew friends, if they believe that as well.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, ask a Jew if he loves Jesus then ask a Muslim and see what answer you get.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really don't blame Israel for being what they are. Really, When Spain, Portugal, England & France conquered N America, did Germany, Russia, Poland etc call us animals? No. When European countries took over Africa did other countries bitch at them for taking what wasn't theirs? No.

If I could get the government & media of a powerful nation to make it's population feel guilty & do most of the dirty work & dying for me would I? Hell yes.

Why would any good leader send their own people off to die when you can get someone else to die for them? The Israeli leadership is doing exactly what the US, England & Canadian leadership OUGHT to be doing, & that is putting the interests of their OWN PEOPLE FIRST.

Israel has had a pretty tough time, just like everyone else at one point or another. Unlike a lot of people, they are willing to do whatever it takes, whether it be lie to & spy on allies, genocide, torture, kill the innocent, obscure & silence their crimes with claims of antisemitsm, etc. They are doing what is necessary
to accomplish their goals. Period.

Throughout history people have done the exact same thing as they are doing. Rome, European states, China, Japan, Nazi Germany, the list goes on.
Only the failures are ever judged harshly in history.

Don't blame Israel, if any of us were in the exact same positoion we would likley act in a very similar fashion.
They have had a lot of incidences in their hostory that reinforce the imperative to aquire & maintain a strong national territory of their own.

Don't blame the British & American politicians, they are doing what politicians have been doing forever: catering to those who offer the better deal.

Blame yourselves. Take a look at what you do. Your taxes pay for thier agression, your silence gives them licence. Everything that you do or do not do that helps them is YOUR CHOICE.

My point is, if you don't like the part you are taking in this chapter of history, blaming people will accomplish absolutely nothing. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Voting will not work. Protesting in the streets will not work. Violence should be out of the question & will not work either.

You all need to follow the example you are given & organize yourself around a clear objective & FOLLOW THROUGH TO THE END.

For example...perhaps you might wish to identify what mechanisms you think are being used to manipulate your people.

If you do decide you have a problem with Israel & wish to act on it, please, don't get a hate on for all Jews, it's wrong, distracting & it's counterproductive focus on fixing things, not hurting fellow people.

Focus on direct approaches, like finding out what companies are in your investment plans & removing all Israeli companies from them.

Call companies that advertise on Pro Israel & Pro War shows & state that their sponsorship of lies has caused you to cease using their products. Then ACTUALLY STOP BUYING THEM.

AIPAC only pays out about $20,000- $100,000 to a politician in campaign contributions. In the grand scheme of things that is Cheap. Organize, & raise funds to pay them more. Out-Bid the bastards. If you were a politician, what would you rather do? Take a bribe from someone you know doesn't have your people's best interests at heart, OR take a bribe from people in your own riding to actually do the right thing? Is it moral or right that you should have to do this? Of course not! But right & wrong have NO place in politics. Never has & it never will. Focus on what will or will not effect change. Get over it & "fund" yourself a public servant.

If you own a business, do not serve Politicians who you do not agree with or their supporters. Do not serve them food, or fix their sinks, or clean their clothes, or design their websites. If you feel strongly enough about this you will find a way to do without their business.

If someone abuses the term anti- semite, call them on it immediately & publicly. Ridicule them . Tell them to leave your presence. Turn the tables & make such people afraid to spew their lies. If someone is actually guilty of anti-semitism....do the same to them. Mere words will not work. Make it clear by action for all to see that there is, in fact a Difference between putting your own nation first & anti- semitism.

You have to be willing to do hard things to stop hard people. You must be strong & willing to do what it takes to put the politicians back in their place AT YOUR SIDE.

People know what they need to do but they are afraid. Stop it.

Forget the excuse that you are alone & alone you can't make a difference. Bull. Do what you need to do whenever you can, however you can & support anyone who is doing the same that you come across....Eventually , enough people will find each other to draw strength.

Forget the excuse that you need his or her money/business to eat. If you take their money, then money & food are more important to you, so stop whining.

Forget the excuse that if you speak out you will be branded an anti-semite. If you are genuinely criticizing what the State of Israel is doing & not picking on someone because their Jewish, you are NOT an anti-semite. Get over it & stop whining.

But, you say, they will call me that anyways & my reputation will be stained. Really? You would actually rather support something you don't believe in than have some jerkoff lie about you? If so, then avoiding the effort of standing up for yourself to a jerkoff is more important to you so Stop Whining.

If your friends actually shun you because of something someone says & they don't give you a chance to reason with them THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS, OR THEY ARE COWARDS. If you remain silent... then what other people think of you is more important to you, so Stop Whining.

In short, if you actually have an issue with what's going on stop whining & crying & DO SOMETHING. Action, money, & more action is the only thing that will do anything about this. EVERYTHING ELSE IS HOLLOW USELESS WHINING.

We all have 2 choices: Fight, or roll over & give up.

Note I didn't list Whining.

In the end the only freedom anyone has is to figure out for ourselves what consequences are aceptable to us. That is all the freedom anyone will ever need.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Mr. Shiner Man said...

ODIGO INSTANT MESSENGER: Perhaps some problem/ reaction/ solution Hegelian dialectical operator as yourself could have sent an Instant Odigo Message to all the goyim in the World Trade Center right before they were made into toast. And what would the message say? "Call Your Compromised Congressman" or "Boycott Israeli Matzoh Balls?

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Shiner Man said...

ODIGO INSTANT MESSENGER: Perhaps some problem/ reaction/ solution Hegelian dialectical operator as yourself could have sent an Instant Odigo Message to all the goyim in the World Trade Center right before they were made into toast. And what would the message say? "Call Your Compromised Congressman" or "Boycott Israeli Matzoh Balls?

Fri Jul 21, 06:13:42 PM EDT

For those who at a confusion to what this means --- "jewish" employees at the WTC were given Instant Messages to NOT COME TO WORK that morning, because of a "grave disaster". This IM was DIRECTED ONLY TO "jewish" employees.

There have been video taped confessions/testimonials about such "early warnings/alerts" --- many of them fearing for the economic future and lives, are forced to be quiet. I kept what videos I had seen.

Very interesting indeed.

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to be an adamant supporter of Israel, but as I have learned more about that nation and it's people, the more I have come to the conclusion that Hitler was right. I was blinded by the lies, the many lies... Read Mein Kampf and see for yourself. Buy an old copy at a book sale or some other source, don't borrow it from a library or buy one from a bookstore or the zionist communists will put you on their hit list. Read the list of charges that Hitler made against them, and in all HONESTY, ask yourself if they are not just and proper. Nearly EVERY CHARGE he made against them is TRUE in America TODAY. Imagine the peace we would have now if he had succeeded. I pray to God every day that Israel gets nuked and every zionist troublemaking money grubbing jew in it fries. And while they are at it, please nuke Washington DC too. It's full of vermin and cockroaches that call themselves our representatives, when in truth they are loyal only to zionist Israel PAC bribe money. Backstabbing Israel spies on us constantly, and when caught, are they charged with high crimes and treason? NO. They are quietly escorted home with no further mention in the zionist controlled media. How would YOU be treated if YOU got caught stealing US secrets and selling them to the Chinese? GUANTANAMO for you pal.. Yeah sure I am a fanatic, but as time goes on, more and more are learning the TRUTH. Israel wouldn't last five minutes without it's blood suction leech mechanism permanently plugged in to the American wallet. Why are foreign powers allowed to lobby OUR Congress? Ever wonder about that? What makes foreigners more important than the American people? The scum in DC make sure that Israel gets it's annual dose of blood money that is forceably extracted from the American people at gunpoint. The jews have been kicked out of every nation that they have infected. They have no friends. No one wants them because of the way they are, and that's why the UN had to steal land and give it to them for a sick nation of their own. America your sons are in Iraq RIGHT NOW, DYING FOR ISRAEL. America will pay dearly with another 911 for kissing Israeli ass. Why do their enemies hate us? WAKE UP. - An American

At Friday, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Dr. Strangelove said...

Thank You, American, I am undone by your eloquence. But there is more, much more to this scenario that's dawning on us. And as we "wake up" to a blood red dawn of unquenchable fire, will the unbearable heat make our blood boil fast enough to get our sorry fat asses out of bed to see it? All our dreams, all our fine, noble pronouncements are melting down into a horrific firestorm. The "American Dream" has now become the American Daymare. The pigeons are coming home to roast. There is a mortal, physical, visceral battle at hand, and any remedies for it must now necessarily be physical. Time for intelligent discourse is coming to an end. It is now time to get these infernal bastards up on punji sticks.

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israel/Arab conflict is the undercard. The Main Event has yet to come. As Israel bombs indiscriminately, the US clamps down on rights at home by stealing private lands, caging peaceful protestors, banning books like "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III and wire-tapping all phones illegally. Soon, the US army will be inside Iran throwing the entire Middle east into chaos. Add another false-flag attack on American soil (like 9/11) and the public will beg for the 'safety' of One World Gov't.
Support indy media.
Last link (before Google books is forced to drop the title):
America Deceived - Book

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Blogger ISRAOIL said...

Young Bush got kicks out of-inserting cannon fire crackers into life frogs ares and laughing himself when the frogs blew up.
now you know--man needs locking up!

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes,the good Dr and the American are right. As an uneducated Australian, i beleive the time has come to kill.....or be killed!!

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Blogger Black Douglas said...

Killing's easy.Just ask Israel.Taking a stand & fixing things takes true strength.Your children are depending on you,people.Does anyone here really want them to become the indifferent,murdering monsters we've all become?For their sakes,I hope the answer is no.

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Blogger Pistis Sofia said...

My point of view
What we see is the Psyche at work: what is happening inside each of us is what is happening outside in the real world. Thus, it is a clash between two Psyche functions and/or archetypes. One of them is the SuperEgo: Israel, America, Iran, North Korea and so on are the most obvious actual examples.. How can we destroy the SuperEgo and let the Self light (God in other words) do the Self organization within each and everyone of us is the big question. The SuperEgo has to be eliminated from the Psyche once and for all. This is was what Jesus was trying to do. How can we help this happens? We need to develop a function inside ourself that will desintegrate completely the SuperEgo. For the present time we identify ourself on one side or the other, i.e. pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian (Libanese, etc). How can we dis-identify ourself once and for all from the SuperEgo conflict and at the same time desintegrate the SuperEgo without being ourself destroy in the process. I wish I could find the solution.

ps It is important to make a distinction between Jews and Israel as to make a distinction between the fuck up American Evangelicals and the good Americans people.

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment is addressed to the anti-semetic bigot about four to six comments up:

You state that you know the "truth?" You provide no empiracle evidence of the "zionist" hand in the American economy, you do not state any of the claims that Hitler made against the Jews in Mein Kampf, and lastly, your narrow-mindedness singles out Jewish action as the sole reason for their persecution. Jew's have been discriminated against for thousands of years because they learned how to enter a society, gain an intricate knowledge of the system, and create a successful life based on the system. This is something no other "people" have been able to do like the Jews. This is why in Amsterdam they couldnt work leading up to World War 2, and why eventually, because of their success in Germany, Hitler used them as a scape goat to unite his country. I think it is disgusting that you justify the Holocaust through Hitler's twisted, accusatory logic. You are not only an anti-semite, but act as the universal root of predjudism and hate.

Taking political theory into account, what incentive does the US have in supporting Israel? From our limited knowledge of intelligence and the economic state of our country, not that much. But I would consider the US a rational actor, thus, supporting Israel must have more benefit than cost. If it didnt, we wouldnt do it! The intelligence that Israel gives us push our oil interests and enhances US security from countries who believe western capitalism to be a cancer.

You are sick, twisted, but then again, can believe whatever you want. In states like Israel and the US, we have something, although at times limited, called "Freedom of Speech." You cant have that in an authoritarian theocracy. Go travel somewhere. It might be good for you to see something outside of your hate filled, bigoted world.

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Blogger Pistis Sofia said...

In response to the previous comment:

...A nation that mandates the primacy of one ethnicity or religion over all others will eventually become psychologically dysfunctional. Narcissistically obsessed with its own image, it must strive to maintain its racial superiority at all costs and will inevitably come to view any resistance to this imagined superiority as an existential threat. Indeed, any other people automatically becomes an existential threat simply by virtue of its own existence. As it seeks to protect itself against phantom threats, the racist state becomes increasingly paranoid, its society closed and insular, intellectually limited. Setbacks enrage it; humiliations madden it. The state lashes out in a crazed effort, lacking any sense of proportion, to reassure itself of its strength.

The pattern played out in Nazi Germany as it sought to maintain a mythical Aryan superiority. It is playing out now in Israel. “This society no longer recognizes any boundaries, geographical or moral,” wrote Israeli intellectual and anti-Zionist activist Michel Warschawski in his 2004 book Towards an Open Tomb: The Crisis of Israeli Society. Israel knows no limits and is lashing out as it finds that its attempt to beat the Palestinians into submission and swallow Palestine whole is being thwarted by a resilient, dignified Palestinian people who refuse to submit quietly and give up resisting Israel’s arrogance...

fromKathleen Christison former CIA political analyst and has worked on Middle East issues for 30 years. She is the author of Perceptions of Palestine and The Wound of Dispossession.

At Saturday, July 22, 2006, Anonymous SHEMP the SHEMITE said...



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