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Largest US Church says Bush behind 9/11

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.
Not if, but when the truth behind 9/11 explodes - America in its current form will cease to exist.

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UPDATE:

I noticed that a number of people have misconstrued my comment as a death wish for America. That is not what I meant. I meant that America will be forced to change in order to survive.

The nation will undergo such fundamental changes in its power structure - i.e., the role of state and local governments vis-a-vis the federal government, issues of local and global defense and foreign policy - that it will no longer resemble what we see today.

19 Comments:

At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger BLKNIGHT18 said...

If you are trying to wake up Christians, have them check out www.watchmanreport.com we are an evangelical site that has been pushing 9/11 truth for a year, and are in correspondence with DRG on strategies to further wake up Christians in America to the truth.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger Visible said...

You people just get better and better. I am so pleased that we walk this road together.

What troubles me though is why the neo-cons would want to have the apocalypse on my birthday?

This is great news by the way. I've been following Griffin's progress. This ought to shake some shit up.

Keep on with the good work my friends. You are cutting edge

Les Visible
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Les,

thanks for the kind words, friend.

hopefully soon, the blogosphere can celebrate its victory over these lunatics, rather than the other way around.

blknight18, anything that wakes the masses is welcome news.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger kootcoot said...

This is a very encouraging sign (the publication of this book). I take issue with the following though.

"President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks."

I personally don't think the (P)resident is smart enough to "organize" something like 9/11. I do think he was complicit though, he just left the heavy lifting of a mental nature to the more intelligent criminals around him.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger kootcoot said...

Also you should be more careful with your facts i.e.

"Only three mainline Protestant churches are among the ten largest churches: the United Methodist Church (ranked 3 with a membership of 8,186,254), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ranked 7 with a membership of 4,930,429), and the Presbyterian Church, USA (ranked 9 with a membership of 3,189,573). All three churches declined in membership since the 2005 Yearbook was released."

Source:The National Council of Churches' 2006 Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches (one of the oldest and most reliable sources of church membership and growth trends)

Mistatements of fact give the right wingnuts a reason to discredit you, even though facts actually mean nothing to Karl Rove and his ilk.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

kootcoot, thanks for the info. It's better to describe it as one of the largest churches in the US. But, changing the title now would screw up the links.

I think that the church is sufficiently large, however, that it deserves equivalent attention.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

truthout said

"I am not saying Bush is not stupid. What I am saying is that he is not brain dead."

You're a riot!

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006, Blogger Brook said...

I won't say that Bush isn't part of the problem, but I believe he is far far from being at the heart of the problem. He is a public appearance that is part of the problem.

All of these churches won't stfu about how we need to support Israel. Now they are trying to blame all of this on Bush and take all of the blame away from any other organization but this "bushco". Israel spied on us. Israel had control of our software military and flight control software. Israel lobbied us for war. Israel benefited from the people they put in the top of the pentagon who crafted and lead us to war. Israel benefited off the war. Israelies were dancing on 9/11. Israel gave us the false intelligence that Saddam was working with the boogeman al qaeda. Israel gave us the false intelligence that Saddam was buying weapon grade uranium. Israelies were caught sabbotaging areas of Iraq next to our people being sniped. If anything Israel is more to blame. Not only the "neocons". Saying Bush masterminded 9/11 is retarded. It's deceptive. And it's psychological warfare.

 
At Monday, August 14, 2006, Blogger 0.3E9m/s said...

Twenty-two years ago I attended a lecture at the University of Maryland where one of the foremost experts in North America in fire safety design for large buildings described in detail how the WTC towers *would* one day fall down. He drew pictures on the blackboard with those little "squibs" and everything. They're an effect of the shock waves in the vertical steel as they shatter the joints at each floor. Those buildings were *guaranteed* to behave *exactly* as they did if they ever had three consecutive floors fully involved in fire, and the tall building design community knew it.

Construction of those buildings was the biggest scandal in civil engineering and fire science in decades. No buildings were ever built that way before or since. The NYC fire code had to be suspended to grant the construction and occupancy permits. But whistleblowers were punished and the scandal hidden from the public, much like the O-rings on the space shuttle.

The *rest* of the 9/11 Truth story makes perfect sense. Of course the Bush administration either planned the whole thing or at least let it happen and covered up its own involvement. How ridiculous is the claim that they can't figure out who short-sold the airline stocks.

But the 9/11 Truth Movement has become an orthodoxy. If you only buy 99.9% of it instead of all 100%, you're the enemy.

It's significant and tragic that the Movement hasn't attracted anybody with in-depth knowledge of fire safety design in tall buildings. We've got a lab manager, a physicist, and a theologian, squinting at grainy videos and announcing their intutive beliefs with the gravity of scientific truth. But nobody who's studied how large buildings burn or how to fireproof them. That's a whole branch of engineering. It had its own College at Maryland.

I think the "intentional demolition" people are infiltrators. They're like the guy who, whenever someone asks "who killed the Kennedys?", pops up with "and what about Area 51 and Bigfoot?" Their job is to destroy the 9/11 Truth movement's credibility.

 
At Monday, August 14, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Cameron,

assuming arguendo that what you say is true about the towers, how do you explain the collapse in WTC7? Was that too a structural engineering scandal?

I do, however, agree that a person should not have to believe all or none of a theory. There are many questions still open about 9/11. More than anything, what needs to happen is a genuine comprehensive investigation by disinterested individuals (scientists and investigators) from around the world. Only then can the truth be discovered.

 
At Tuesday, August 15, 2006, Blogger C L I F Y L Q said...

This so called largest church needs to get straight with these two facts before they will finally know the TRUTH about 9/11.

First of all it is NOT BUSH behind 9/11
Second it is the "ELITES" WHO ARE! tHEY ARE IMPROPERLY CAPTIONED HOWEVER!

In truth these Elites are the Zionist who lead Israel and their all too many collaborators in the White house, the Congress, and the Senant. The so called elites are Zionist Nazis who have a single mind set, that of conquering the world ultimately to help with the rise of their God; antichrist!

Once the people at the The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A) etc., get passed this TRUTH, then perhaps you will realize the fact that unfortunately nothing can STOP it until Christ comes to throw Satan and his deciples into the burning lake along with his false prophets.

Review these links for "the truth will set you FREE!"

Israel Takes 10 Academy Awards For 9/11
http://clifylq.livejournal.com/4531.html

End Days
http://www.supportbordercontrols.com/page5.html

WASP
http://supportbordercontrols.com/political/page5.html

God Help Us ALL!!!

Cliff Lindquist
http://www.supportbordercontrols.com

 
At Monday, November 06, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

"They will not let us spoil such a racket without an effective fight."

They've been fighting the whole time - we're the ones who've been taking it laying down.

 
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