CNN presents . . . the truth, for a change
Pretty poor and superficial coverage - but hey, what do you expect? It's Paula Zahn. Besides, the important thing is that the genie's out of the bottle.
And there's no way to put it back, notwithstanding the fact that CNN tried to minimize Loose Change's credibility by pointing out that none of them are engineers or "trained investigators" (whatever that means) and that only Jason has a college degree. Weak, very weak.
They also switch over to so-called credible sources, who dismiss the trio's claims out of hand. Nevertheless, the deed is done. They got people thinking and more importantly, they proved that the internet is making a colossal difference.
CNN correspondent: You say this was a conspiracy. Isn't it possible that it was simply a colossal failure by the US government?
Dylan: For them to have been completely caught off guard by September 11th, we would have to believe that our government is the three stooges.
Possible. But, not likely.Ultimately, CNN treads lightly, knowing that the internet is watching very, very carefully and that everything they say can and will be held against them.
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Three Stooges - GWJOKES.com
posted by qrswave @ Thursday, September 14, 2006
7 Comments:
Hi qrs.
I'm of the mind that Dylan Avery's inescapably publicized high-school documentary is designed to undermine the pedantic investigation and rational analysis of intelligent adults.
There were TWO planes at the Pentagon, QRS, and one of them was an American Airlines marked Boeing 757.
The hole at the Pentagon is HUGE.
There are hundreds of mutually-compatible witness reports,
and a significant number of them describe an AA-marked jetliner accompanied to the crime scene by a grey C-130.
The same C-130 was present when 93 was terminated.
But an astonishing number of so-called "truth" seekers don't want to know about the second plane - for some reason.
Here is what witness Allen had to say about the Pentagon strike, and the subsequent seizure and suppression of footage:
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Isn't it odd how there is Not a single mention of this aircraft in ANY of the articles written about this crash? Also if you had not noticed... There is not a single picture or live footage of the actual jet prior to its crash at the Pentagon. Nor is there any of the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. But if Anyone who rides the metro-rail knows, there are plenty of Video cameras all around National airport at the parking Garages and the high level security buildings found all around Crystal city. (3 of which I have personally found pointed directly towards crystal city which would have given a great line of site shot of that jet prior to the crash as well as any OTHER PLANE which might have been following it. I personally believe that the government new full well that this was about to happen and they are hiding something a lot bigger than they are willing to let out.
ref (webarchive)
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Witness Kelly said:
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"It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane,
or if they do they're hiding it for some reason."
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I share Kelly's frustration.
I don't know what the truth is - but I know what it's not.
It is not the story about 19 hijackers and hundred-story buildings collapsing from fire.
Even if these guys are wrong about the Pentagon, at least they are challenging the government's lies and they appear to be sincere.
Only a thorough investigation by a trustworthy team of professionals elected by the people and open to the public can dispel all the questions, once and for all.
qrswave,
This last comment of yours is what I can almost agree with. I differ that there were 19 hijackers. But the US knew and was forewarned but decided to take it as the springboard for PNAC.
That fits all the evidence I have seen so far, in addition to the reluctance to hold inquiries that may dig very deep. That also explains the undue praise showered on Tenet after he left CIA. etc. etc.
bin Laden, Nasrallah, Zawahiri etc. need to keep a persona of absolute truth and piety in order to command the loyalty that they command. I know people who know people who know people (4th degree of separation) who know bin Laden's outer circle. The videos of hijackers, the origin of videos from Pakistan, etc. etc. are not fake.
This is what Noam Chomsky meant when he said we should not hurt the left by making the conspiracy too cooky.
This is why this video hit so hard. There was conspiracy, not as much as others think - but a conspiracy of silence to let the attacks happen - as betrayed by Bush's facial expressions when he was interrupted during the goat story.
@akber
"This is why this video hit so hard. There was conspiracy, not as much as others think - but a conspiracy of silence to let the attacks happen - as betrayed by Bush's facial expressions when he was interrupted during the goat story."
== WTC 7 ==
How do you explain wtc7? That couldn't have been done by the skyjackers.
== BL claims (false?) ==
Do you think those articles claiming
Bin Laden said Israel and the US where behind 9/11 are false. (Since you are "closer" to Bin Laden you might know something we don't.)
http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
The ones behind 9/11 could just have executed the operations without informing the puppet president, to get those facial expressions.
@saif
1. Yes, my opinion about WTC7 is that it was brought down on purpose in order to allow rescuers access. I was following several news channels on that day, and there was talk of bringing down other buildings in the area also in order to make it safer for rescuers. This also explains why WTC7 is on the back burner of all government investigations as it would fuel the deliberate explosion theory of WTC1 and WTC2.
2. Regarding UBL, there is a lot of disinformation from the CIA - including videos and stuff meant to throw off al-Qaeda - but that does not mean that there is no al-Qaeda or no bin Laden. He was interviewed many times, including that by Hamid Mir (one after 9/11). I have met Hamid Mir in Islamabad, Pakistan.
3. There was intelligence that 'bin Laden was determined to strike the US' - the infamous memo - and the buzz inside intelligence agencies, including Mossad, was frantic. Airline and hotel stocks went down on some insider knowledge. I would also credit Larry Silverstein's purchase of the WTC lease to this foreknowledge.
However, I think that no one knew that WTC1 and WTC2 would fall, so all were caught by surprise there - that is just the engineers' fault.
4. There is still a lot unknown about Flight 93 - and the phone calls are probably fake - all designed to hide the shoot-down of the plane. Also, the recovery of the plane and debris from there has been covered up.
5. The words of the Chief of Staff to Bush 'America is under attack' and Bush's subsequent understanding twisty smile while looking at the camera would have made no sense at all were they totally out of the blue. He should have asked some question or something.
All I am saying is I do not agree that the planes hitting the towers were illusions, or military planes. Or that it is a huge conspiracy or that the hijackers are still living etc. Usually the best conspiracies are those that go along with the flow, rather than creating a total virtual reality from scratch. :)
Although, it is small at least this got it out there and maybe now others that had not seen the loose change videos will and will ask their own questions. Even though this was still short, she did talk to the 3 makers of the film. Asking one fire expert, was pretty weak in my opinion to refute their film.
All of us, who have been vigorously trying to spread the truth about the 9/11 tragedy should at least find this somewhat rewarding. Not bad. Also, I had a great experience the other day at work that I would like to share....one of my best friends at work is the all-american guy, played football in college, works hard but parties even harder, and an all-around good guy. I have never tried to approach him with the truth about 9/11 because I thought I would be wasting my time....well, the other day, he excitedly asks me if I have ever seen the movie "Loose Change"........a smirk appeared on my face....I didn't even know how to answer that question.....OFCOURSE I HAD SEEN IT, I almost memorized it......anyways, I let him speak....and he recounted all his shocking reactions to the information relayed through the movie and how his attitude about Governments had changed 180 degrees, etc.......it was a good feeling to see someone that is a good friend become enlightened with the truth......keep spreading the word.
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