Jesus Made Me Do It
Just in time for Easter (and a war with Iran), a newly translated ancient document "portrays Judas as a favoured disciple who was given special knowledge by Jesus - and who turned him in at Jesus' request."
"You will be cursed by the other generations - and you will come to rule over them," Jesus tells Judas in the document made public on Thursday.So, now we know where Bush gets his strategy from.
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Craig Evans, a professor at Acadia Divinity College in Nova Scotia, Canada, said New Testament explanations for Judas' betrayal range from money to the influence of Satan.
"Perhaps more now can be said," he commented. The document "implies that Judas only did what Jesus wanted him to do."
In a key passage Jesus tells Judas, "You will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me."Now, this discovery (and its translation) can either be authentic and true or it could be evidence that the author of the text needed a little clinical advice.
This indicates that Judas would help liberate the spiritual self by helping Jesus get rid of his physical flesh, the scholars said.
"Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom," Jesus says to Judas, singling him out for special status.
"Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star."
The text ends with Judas turning Jesus over to the high priests and does not include any mention of the crucifixion or resurrection.
National Geographic said the author believed that Judas Iscariot alone understood the true significance of Jesus' teachings.
The author of the text is not named in the writings.
Nevertheless, even more intriguing is the history behind the discovery.
[T]he Gospel of Judas and other texts [were] discovered in Al Minya, Egypt in the early 1970s. Having survived in the desert for more than 1.600 years, the papyrus deteriorated greatly when it was transferred to a safe deposit box in Long Island, N.Y.Long Island, N.Y.??? According to the AP report:
[T]he papyrus was kept in a safety deposit box for several years and began to deteriorate before conservators restored it. More than 1,000 pieces had to be reassembled.Draw your own conclusions. Seems a little odd to me.
posted by qrswave @ Saturday, April 08, 2006
24 Comments:
clinical advice? In what way is this text crazier than the other ones?
hey, don't get so edgy, anon.
Either it's true, or it's a fabrication - hence unreasonable. I think that's a fair assessment. I'm in no position to judge which it is.
However, I do take issue with the fact that this allegedly ancient and groundbreaking document spent several years in a safety deposit box in Long Island, N.Y. before being analyzed and deciphered. Unless I missed it, there's no indication as to when it was retrieved from Long Island.
Something is fishy about this "New find".. It seems to be saying that the Bible is a constantly changing document. And that the villain is actually the hero..
My question is.. What is the religious preference of the translators/interpreters of this supposed document? That was assembled out of a bunch of shredded manuscripts..
What are the last names of these "Experts/academics".. Perhaps that will give me a clue to their orientation.
Who benefits from this "Revelation"?
My bet is the money changers.
My Conclusion... another Hoax made by Israeli 'Jews'. Long Island is after all a location where many of the 5th pillar colonise.
They are constantly perpetrating hoaxes and lies to manipulate their cattle, er I mean Goyim.
In fact I am convinced Christianity was created by them in order to control unsuspecting sheep. Part of those ancient Protochols... If Christianity was made by Christ, then how come did it take centuries after his death to form the first church? There are too many contradictions. And the Tamudic influence upon many useful idiot goy is a complete contradiction to the real message of Christ the REFORMER of PHARISEES.
Israelis are merely the modern PHARISEES. And Zionist Christans are unheedful of: Revelation 2:9-10, 3:9
Long Island? I do not think anything credible will come from either Long Island, DC or Haifa.
Who benefits? Religionists of any stripe can use this to justify whatever they want just as they have used the other claptrap in the bible, koran, the torah, talmud, etc.
It's just gasoline on the fire of insanity.
RELIGION, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable. - Ambrose Bierce
These findings, though authentic ancient scripts, are fodder of the Gnostics who for the last 2 millenia have waged a clandestine war against the teachings and life of Jesus Christ. Posing as the custodians of the "real truth" the Gnostics, who count Freemasons, Kabalahs etal as brothers in arms, attempt to sell their claims on the basis of "Hidden Secret Truth", and are nothing but an organised front of Godless individuals who want nothing more than the destruction of the 4 pillars of Christian society....that being family, religeon nation and cultural identity.
The motivation of those that fund and promote these so called secrets(as evidenced even in the hype of books and movies such as the Divinci Code), is nothing more than global control of governments, resources, people, religeon, and of course Money itself, on a maniacal course for the establishment of world government and institutionalising godless behaviour.
It is no coincidence that this Judas Gospel and its glorification of betrayal is being promoted at Easter. (Betrayal of loving friendship for personal gain itself being one of the worst godless behaviours)
Unfortinately these people that back this rubbish are likely to succeed in their ambitions of global control simply because for the love of money the vast majority in the world have already ceded their rights and abandoned their faith in a loving God.
Fortinately those of us that still believe in Jesus Christ and his sensational claims to be the Son of God, his life and promises will not be dissapointed.
Another attempt to just deny responsibility for killing Jesus Christ by the Jews - nothing more, nothing less. They care not at all, whose religion they attack, whose beliefs they trash, whose lives they ruin. We all have to tip toe around them, they are very sensative when it comes to themselves, Israel, Zionism and Judaism, but do not call them out on a wrong they have committed or point out that others suffer too (that is anti-semetic). Someone should authenticate the whole story - as an Egyptian I am skeptical of an ancient Papyrus being kept in a "safe-deposit box" being in any state to be decifered. Like the "oldest Christian Church in Israel" story that surfaced out of Israel a few months back and the "treasures from Solomons Temple" all found to be hoaxes, this sounds like another Jewish fairy-tale.
"a newly translated ancient document "portrays Judas as a favoured disciple who was given special knowledge by Jesus - and who turned him in at Jesus' request."
This premise is neither original nor new - it's been around for more than 30 years.
As has been the "Gospel of Judas."
[Fortinately those of us that still believe in Jesus Christ and his sensational claims to be the Son of God, his life and promises will not be dissapointed.]
The fact that you believe this make believe story of gods and god jr's explains how you can paranoid enough to believe that there is some sort of evil freemason cabal running the world.
"Oh, lordy, ma! The illuminati's a comin'!"
Get thee to a shrink!
LOL!
... Gnostics, who count Freemasons, Kabalahs etal as brothers in arms, attempt to sell their claims on the basis of "Hidden Secret Truth", and are nothing but an organised front of Godless individuals who want nothing more than the destruction of the 4 pillars of Christian society....
Ah yes, a branch of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy!
For the record, Gnostics were not godless just because they didn't believe in your god.
Why not Long Island? After all, the angel Moroni buried the golden tablets in upstate NY. And God wants his prophets to be fruitful and multiply with teenage girls and lots of 'em.
You mean to tell me we've been killing the Jews for all these years by mistake?! Oops, sorry 'bout that.
Both texts are fabrications. The bible is a bunch of fairy tales, but if y'all get some peace from it, that's cool.
P.S.:
WHO THE FUCK CARES?
It's not like any of this matters. Jesus could be resurrected tomorrow and say "Y'all are believing lies," and no one would listen.
People believe what they want. This is just more proof of that.
Quote: "At Sun Apr 09, 01:05:07 AM EDT, Anonymous said...
Why not Long Island? After all, the angel Moroni buried the golden tablets in upstate NY. And God wants his prophets to be fruitful and multiply with teenage girls and lots of 'em.
You mean to tell me we've been killing the Jews for all these years by mistake?! Oops, sorry 'bout that."
Gotta to break it to you but the holocaust is a hoax too. It did not exist before 1976. Do your homework and discover you've been had. The "6 million" number is complete fiction. Go to myspace.com and search for member NOLAJBS. See all his blogs for a start. Also look at historic photos of the aushwitz monuments which changed over the years to higher and higher numbers. Zundel is correct. He is the Galleleo of our time.
The only thing USraelis produce are
falsehoods, forgeries, hypocricy in action and bloody lies. They should open a center and call it Hoaxes R US.
They are the one committing genocides as they play victim. I have only sympathy for the victims not the perpeTRAITORS.
Study the "Protochols of the learned elders of zion" BTW- they say its a forgery to try to cover it up. What is a Forgery? A COPY OF SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS. Can't forge currency that does not exist. That applies to books also.
And learn about the annual ritual prayer on Yom Kippur.
This is just another hoax to add to the collection of the worst pariah welfare state to suck the blood of the globe. Not to mention the spys that infiltrated the US government and archtects of synthetic terrorisms.
Saddams out,so WHO ARE THE WHORES OF BABYLON NOW?
The Protocols of Zion are a FAKERY, not a forgery.
As far as whether the Holocasut existed or not...visit the concentration camps and talk to a survivor. Ask them yourself. If you cannot do as much, you yourself are a fakery who prefers to have fun engaging in hatred rather than intellectual thought.
QRS, I said it before, and I will say it again.
Who the fuck cares that a new document was found?
Does any of it change your belief structure? Has it changed anyone's belief structure?
People are so set in their ways, in what they believe, that NOTHING will change what they think. Period.
Certainly the new document didn't make me believe in Jesus where I didn't before.
Religion itself is nice if it helps people get through the day. But for me, I find that secular humanism is a comfort that helps me get through the day. Both should be considered equally valid in this world, and yet they are not. Try running for public office as an avowed atheist. Let's see how far anyone gets. There is a very real discrimination against atheists that permeates throughout all of American society. Frankly, I find it more frightening than offensive. Discrimination and fear of those who are different generally happens when the discriminators have a weak moral core and faith in their belief. They then have to prove their superiority by enacting unconstitutional laws and by going to war.
The bottom line is that the fear and discrimination against atheists, gays, Muslims, and anyone in general who is different in America...it is indicative of a larger problem.
It proves more than ever that Christianity is part of Judaism, as it clear to us that Jesus was a Jewish kind of Rabbi. We, the gentiles, turn it to be our weapons against Jews and Judaism. But we have made a mistake, historical mistake by hating Jews as we hated Judas in vain.
Judas did what the Lord have told his and he was the most loyal friend to Jewsus. That's why we have to ask the Jews for forgiveness and we have to correct our attitude towards them.
"NO-one knows if Jesus Christ existed and if he did, nothing is known about him" Bertrand Russell-"Why I am not a Christian-1928"
"All that was beautiful under the Roman Imperium became ugly under Jewish Christianity" Friedrich Nietzche
Anon at 2:35 pm:
No, Christians do not owe Jews an apology because of any recent revelation from these texts.
The apology is owed because even if Judas did betray Jesus (assuming Judas and Jesus even existed to begin with!), it is still one man and at the time, everyone was Jewish, anyway!!
My god, this "blaming of the Jews" that happened throughout history is so nonsensical and non-grounded in fact, that this one extra bit of information adds nothing to what should have already been painfully obvious: blaming Jews for the death of Jesus was and will continue to be based in hatred and not fact.
"Miss R" Sure Convinces Herself!
(Mighty Thor, 9 Apr 06)
To "Miss R," typical pathological Jew liar: People have indeed visited and investigated "concentration camps" and conclusively found no evidence for Jew lies called holohoax. See Codoh.com, Ihr.org, Zundelsite.org. And further, there is no credible witness testimony to support Jew holohoax lies and allegations, such attempted testimony really mere demonstrated Jew lies ad nauseum; see prof. Finkelstein, "The Holocaust Industry."
CONCLUSION: "Miss R" speaks only as Jew and for Jew liars, murderers, and conspirators, pretending in her Jew psychosis she fools anyone but herself and perhaps a few other morons among the gentiles. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
Thor/Appy/Insignificant being:
Go to the sites yourself. See for yourself before spouting lies.
Those who went and then claimed that it was a fabrication flat out did not go, or were liars themselves.
So you go and then decide for yourself. Speak to a survivor. Then make your nonsensical claims.
Repetitive Lies: "Miss R's" Jew Strategy
(Mighty Thor, 9 Apr 06)
Further, we note "Miss R" persists in her gross lie Christ was "Jew"--No, Jews are defined as followers of Pharisees who heed to Talmud. Christ bitterly opposed Pharisees who had him murdered. See Michael A. Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange Gods" and Ted Pike's "Israel: Our Duty--Our Dilemma.
Note further in Jew Talmud it is stated Christ was rightfully executed for blasphemy and heresy, such are the lies and effrontery of pathologic liars like the Jews and lower-level sort as "Miss R" who perfectly follows Jew religion of lies and anti-gentile conspiracy.
But we gentiles will do most to defeat Jews and "Sadducean" co-conspirators by removing their main powerhouse weapon of Federal Reserve Bank counterfeiting scam.
CONCLUSION: In general we merely need cultural RATIONALIZATION, exposing for example, collaboration of "Judeo-Christain" (JC) heretics who effective collaborate with topmost Jew criminals and conspirators. Bush II was supported by JCs who are more and more embarrassed. See more antisemitic, pro-Christian expo by "Apollonian" at NewNation.org under "commentary" heading. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
Mrs R is just a shill. Ignore her.
She thinks hatred of deception is wholesale hate. That is caverous ignorance without end. No person likes to be lied to, mislead or decieved. Show me one person who likes that. They do not exist.
Hatred or deception, lies or hoaxes is criminal. It is a natural response that moral humans resent those whom try to decieve them.
Shills wil try to villify those who protest the evils Iraelis have imposed upon the world. They use the'Anti-semite' card every time a person trys to hold them to account. Yet they are the supreme hypocrits of the globe, as they commit hate crimes, genocide, and try to exterminate the semite peoples in their midst. Palistinians and Arabs are all after all semites. On the other hand Israelis are of the 13th tribe which are FAKE hews. As Being jewish is in the mitocondria. It comes only through a Jewish mother.
All you need to know for the basic understanding of where the world lack of peace originates can be found here:
www.antichristconspiracy.com/synagogue_of_satan.htm
Before Israel ever came to pass, there was complete peace and harmony in the Middle East.
Only Jews that wish to hide the truth of the Talmud behind their backs will deny its hate filled teachings, as well as the Protochols. And if the hollow cost is real, why do you need to make investigation of facts illegal? If you Israelis have nothing to hide, let the evidences or lack there of speak. The fact that you persecute Zundel and others for merely QUESTIONING, has made more believers of Zundels ideas than would have ever occured otherwise.
Hear it from the horses mouth. From a former Zionist: www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.htm
My honest jewish friends tell the truth. Israel is the enemy of the entire globe. They are our only enemy. Its not hate speech to call a viper a viper, a hypocrite a hypocrite, a liar a liar. Jesus was not speaking hate speech when he chased the decievers out of the temple. He came to reform the very ones that persecuted him. Israelis are the only people running around perpetrating all manner of evils with impunity as if only they have some kind of diplomatic immunity. Saying they are 'Gods Chosen'. Honest jews will say that is not so. Hebrews fell out of grace long ago. Corruption does that. They violate every Mosaic Law yet act as if Gods laws somehow do not apply to them.
That is the deception they tell themselves. Judgement day is coming. It will arrive as a thief in the night. And God tempers mercy with justice. Why else did Christ speak more of hell than of glad tidings?
It is insane that Christians are murdering Muslims for Israel. And Muslims love Jesus. Yet they do this torture and murder of innocents for those Israelis who hate Jesus, hate humanity and look down on every akim and goyim as sub human.
This is not serving God. To serve Israel is quite the opposite. And it is not hate speech to percieve real evil and to call it a snake.
It is only hubris that rapes the world and demands we willingly accept the assault and call the rapists a saint.
"All religion is bunk!".
Thomas Alva Edison
Anon at 11:27 am, you rock!
And Jews don't hate Jesus. They simply don't believe in Jesus. BIG DIFFERENCE.
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