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Well-balanced discussion?

How did we ever become so confrontational. How can we defuse it? Vitriolic outbursts never solve problems.

Anti-Israeli comments should be 'careful'? And the pro-Israeli comments? Anyways, enjoy:

Commentary by David Hirsh and readers' comments

Original exchange:

Email exchange with a British Member of European Parliament


At Friday, May 05, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

WOW! What a firestorm!

But, good for him. He was a bit testy in his first response to her (not very effective).

But, his second response was amazing!

He's better off outside the establishment and this is one more example of how the Israeli Lobby operates.

So, he should rest well. He is NOW in good company.

At Friday, May 05, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

USA And West--Still Captive To Religion Of The Lie
(Mighty Thor, 5 May 06)

Good post, "Akber": note as our economic lives depend so much upon Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) counterfeiting whims of topmost criminals and frauds known as Judeo-oligarchs (like the Council on Foreign Relations--CFR--see JBS.org), they think they can impose their religion of fraud upon us.

Thus here in USA, a Christian land made by Christians for Christians, we see Christianity under most vigorous attack by Jews of ACLU, holohoax fraud-heresy imposed at Christian taxpayers' expense. Thus we're forced to worship Jews and Jew lies.

USA--captive land of lie-worship, fueled by the Fed counterfeiting fraud--isn't it appropriate, fitting, consistent, and actually quite logical in its perverse way? Thus the Spenglerian "Decline of the West" continues to rage till it burns itself out, weeding out the weaklings by means of Orwellian "perpetual war."

Thus we need to be antisemitic to survive and prevail, and it isn't a "victory" for us if God is only so good to grant us mere survival.

CONCLUSION: So what then would serve as appropriate religion providing a positive and inspiring value carrying then the necessary parallel and complementary antisemitism? Constantine the Great, 4th cent. Roman emperor, was the last successful Western leader to compose the winning and successful cultural coalition against the Jews. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

At Saturday, May 06, 2006, Blogger Akber said...

Thor I think your anti-Semitism is misplaced.

However, the intellectual strangulation of the world by AIPAC-like Israeli lobbies has to be stopped. And the only way we can stop it, is to speak out - calmly, coolly and rationally and let the Israeli propagandists froth at the mouth, as they usually do.

David Hirsh's commentary is pathetic. The MEP wrote a nasty email in response to a nasty email. The Israeli lobby did not rest until he was fired by the party.

That is intellectual terrorism - and it has to be stopped.

Recently, there is this new tactic of 'false analogies'. This is the latest propaganda trick.

1. The apartheid analogy is not false
2. The 'Israel should learn from Holocaust' analogy is not false.
3. The 'ticking time bomb' theory about allowing torture is false.

Israel has to distort reason in order to justify its existence, which is a distortion of reason itself.

The least we can do is not to be silent, for then the terrorists win. And by terrorists, I mean the intellecutal terrorists of Israel.

Patrick Kennedy the cocaine-user drunk driver is a good legislator. :) So was Tom Delay - very nice - doubleplus good. So were all the congressmen who met with Abramoff! Fantastic legislators. And one legislator who cares to speak out for justice and really knows what he is talking about- is provoked and then killed.

This has to stop - for the sake of the sanity of the world. The whole world cannot go insane justifying the distorted thinking of a bunch of historical revisionists - the Zionist Taliban.

At Saturday, May 06, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Antisemtism--The Very Essence Of Issue
(Mighty Thor, 6 May 06)

Akber: I assure u absolutly ANTISEMITISM IS NOT "MISPLACED"--on the contrary, it is of the very essence.

Important antisemitic issue is further reflected in ur disinformed phrase, "Zionist Taliban"--as if Zionism (like communism itself) is mere bad aspect of otherwise "good" or tolerable Talmudism, heart and soul of Judaism, all Judaism by definition.

It's Judaism which is the issue, not a mere side-issue/consequence, like Zionism (or communism). Note it is in Judaism, not merely Zionism, whence originates the collectivism of Jews whom God reputedly judges as people, not individually.

Most of all note the Judaic-Talmudic subjectivism and relation of God who does not create reality once and for all, but at the whim of his "chosen" people so they can rule over all and all others not so favored by God, God then a mere assassin and servant for the Jew chosenites who influence and petition God as female to male protector=pimp.

Akber: it is ur disinformed and incompetent understanding of Judaism, hence Talmud, first of all, at the very foundation, responsible for ur continued misperceptions and false analyses--so consistent and anti-Western, anti-American.

U Akber are far too accommodating to the Jew, obsessively (even) overlooking the real, fundamental nature of Judaism which then leads ineluctably to the consequent Zionist fascism (and communism, still existing and raging, actually, in significant parts of the world, esp. in UN Charter), not an aberration for Judaism at all, in slightest regard.

CONCLUSION: U must increase and enhance ur antisemitism--or prepare for consequences as TRAITOR to fellow gentiles. DO NOT PATRONIZE US PATRIOTS with ur weakness and soft-headedness regarding the nature of Judaic, not merely Zionist, enemy. Get a clue, comrade. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor


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