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Israel, Israel, Israel, Kill, Kill, Kill - that's all I ever read online

Could it be because that's all Israel ever does?
A car was hit in an Israeli airstrike in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday and one Palestinian child was killed, Palestinian witnesses said.
Note the passive structure of the statement. Israel didn't fire a missile at the car, the car was hit by it, and Israel didn't kill the child, the child was simply killed as if the car and the child were respectively hit and killed spontaneously. But, dead is dead - no matter how you describe it - and so is state-sponsored murder.
The strike targeted a car carrying Palestinian militants in the Jebaliya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, said the witnesses, adding that 11 people including seven children were also injured in the attack.

There was no immediate comment from Israel concerning the incident.

Israel has recently stepped up airstrikes against Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip in a bid to prevent rocket attacks against the Jewish state.
Ghee, these preventative measures sound awfully familiar.

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UPDATE: Israel killed, not one, but three children with this airstrike.
Israel killed three Palestinian children, two of them siblings, in an air strike on the Gaza Strip on Tuesday after its defence minister pledged to step up military action against cross-border rocket salvoes.

Witnesses said aircraft fired at least one missile at a car carrying al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades militants in Gaza City. The occupants managed to leap free but a 7-year-old girl and her 5-year-old brother nearby were killed, as was a 16-year-old.

Nine bystanders, most of them minors, were wounded.
They must be proud.

133 Comments:

At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

More fine work from the IAF. Teen, 7-year-old, & 5-year-old dead.
"Purity of arms".

Not just competing with the US in kid-killing, but doing everything to thwart dialogue.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

open your mouth one more word and i will scream from the top of my lungs Holocaust , Holocaust ,Holocaust

what part of the Holocaust masacre you did not get
?

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Celestials have noticed.

http://www.myspace.com/jesus_q

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn those God foresaken bastards. They will pay in blood!

LA

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ONLY GOOD JEW IS A DEAD ONE!!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

too bad the germans didn't have more time to cleanse this wonderful Planet of Jewish scorge!!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for the Holocaust, tell me when the Palestinians were involved in the Holocaust? Can you truthfully say that Isreal is justified in the indiscriminant killing of innocent thousands a year because of the Holocaust? I guess the same can be said for 9-11 and Iraqis...

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The poor Isreali government must feel awful...

Let's send them more tax money to cheer them up a bit...

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The part I don't get about the holocaust is why the myth of 6,000,000 had to be created to replace the truth and why it has become a crime to search for the truth of what really happened.

In other news today...

Israeli terrorists used air to surface missiles to murder three Palestinian children, two of them siblings, in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday after the Israelis pledged to step up military action against the people of Gaza.

Witnesses said an Israeli terrorist aircraft fired at least one missile at a car in Gaza City. The car's occupants managed to leap free but a 7-year-old girl and her 5-year-old brother were killed, as was a 16-year-old. Nine others, mostly children, were badly wounded in the Israeli terrorism.

News of this latest terrorist act is, of course, being censored by all of the media outlets in the US and elsewhere which are owned and managed by Jews who hold an opinion that routinely firing air to surface missiles into heavily populated city streets filled with children is justified as an essential means of preventing the children of Gaza from driving the Israeli nation into the Mediterranean Sea and annihilating the Jewish nation.

Left unanswered, to be sure, is the question of how on earth any so-called human being can justify the terrorist murders carried out against these children by invoking the word, again and again, "holocaust, holocaust, holocaust".

Most observers, worldwide, agree that the Palestinians continue to demonstrate an extraordinary restraint and dedication to peace in the face of the routine murders of their children by the Israeli State Terror Machine.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous the "new" miss r said...

I have to honestly say, I agree with the following article. Honesty, Truth and Knowledge are our best defense against Zionist Propaganda! Long live Che!

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Why I admire Ernst Zundel
Posted: 2006/05/27
From: Mathaba
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It has become abundantly clear to me that our allegedly fair and balanced mainstream media has seriously misrepresented both Irving and Zundel

By Chris Womak

How could anyone admire a man that publicly admits admiration for Adolf Hitler, that openly acknowledges himself to be a "Holocaust skeptic," and who never apologizes for his political incorrectness and nonconformist views? Who could possibly approve of a man who has put his personal freedom and indeed life on the line countless times in order to do nothing more than bring the world’s attention to what he believes to be an honest, albeit alternative view of history? Who could appreciate anyone bold enough to literally carry a cross on his own back, on behalf of all the world’s German population for no other reason than to at least partially exonerate them of the collective guilt forced upon them after the Second World War, and who to this very day, denounce Mr. Zundel for his self imposed role as their defender? Who could possibly hold in high esteem a man who rejects twenty-first century materialism as the answer to life and all its mysteries and instead seeks satisfaction in more personal pursuits like developing friendships with those that cannot possibly advance the "intolerant and violent" racist agenda attributed to the alleged "patriarch" of the "hate movement?"

Who could possibly admire a man that has sustained nothing but persecution from society at large, who has been the victim of ongoing smear campaigns launched more than three decades ago, who has suffered from every conceivable attack on his character, finances, family and even on his life. Who could think highly of man who despite all these things, and despite the fact that he is in prison at this very moment, not for a crime, no…no…. but because the Canadian government has determined that this pacifist is somehow a danger to Canada’s National Security, maintains a positive attitude and believes without any less certainty, that his cause is just, and that society will someday judge him, not on what the mainstream media says about him today, but upon his selfless and altruistic actions over a lifetime.

Again, I ask, who could ever appreciate a man who for the last several decades has devoted himself to bringing forth the unpopular views of hard working academics, who were it not for Ernst Zundel, may be unknown today, and their work tossed into the sea of forgettable historiography, not based on its merit, but based upon the fact that it didn’t sit well with mainstream and politically acceptable views?
How could anyone possibly hold a man like this in high regard, when there are so many other courageous individuals out there willing to stand up for their views, heroes that wouldn’t consider apologizing for their beliefs, like American politicians? For instance, when Jim Moran boldly exclaimed the obvious fact that Israel stood the most to gain from a U.S. war in Iraq, and in fact was influencing American foreign policy by way of a few well placed American Zionist officials. What about Trent Lott, who stated at a GOP function that the United States would have been, better off today had Strom Thurmond become president back in the 1950s. What about the daring exploits of Howard Dean, the Democratic parties best bet in 2004, a man unafraid to take a stand on an issue he can apologize for later. Yes, America is full of courageous people, people unafraid to throw their neighbor to the crocodile, in hopes of being the last eaten.

If I were interested in apologists and hesitant stands on ambiguous issues, I’d have plenty of heroes to admire, right here in the United States. Being an academic, I could seek out other academics to idolize and/or admire, there are so many courageous examples, although I can’t think of one right now. Some of you might shout, "Hey, what about Noam Chomsky?" I’d just say, been there done that, and found the esteemed professor "sympathetic" to Ernst Zundel’s plight, "outrageous," he even exclaimed, but in the end, he felt that it wouldn’t be in anyone’s best interests, if he were to speak out too vocally on Ernst’s behalf.

What about all the gutsy journalists working for the prestigious networks and newspapers? Certainly, these bold "defenders" of truth and justice would write an article on the illegal nature in which Ernst was deported from the United States to Canada, where he was subsequently thrown quietly into a solitary confinement cell in the Toronto West detention Center, in Toronto Canada. These brave journalists would definitely be interested in an expose on how the new terrorism laws are already being abused to silence dissent. The idea that Mr. Zundel is a threat to any nations national Security is ridiculous, the man hasn’t committed a violent crime in his entire life and has never been convicted of a crime that wasn’t later overturned in Canada’s highest court. The brave and courageous purveyor’s of "fair and balanced" news haven’t written an article yet, that even approached an equitable portrayal of Mr. Zundel. Ernst Zundel’s crime is that he is politically incorrect, nonconformist and no matter what the powers that be throw at him, he just won’t apologize and prostrate himself like our illustrious American politicians. He is dangerous only to the status quo, and they know it, that in fact is why he currently languishes in prison, not because he actually represents a danger to society.

Ernst Zundel admires Adolf Hitler, so what? Ernst Zundel doesn’t believe any Jews were gassed at Auschwitz, so what? Ernst Zundel is and has been for some time; extremely critical of Zionism and its designs on the world, by God…it is too damned bad more people aren’t behind him on this! Zundel is unafraid to do what Jim Moran didn’t have the guts to do, and that is to stand up to and challenge the State of Israel, and the undisputed influence Zionists have in the United States and Canada today. Don’t fool yourself, this disproportionate influence is very real, Congressmen have written books about it, as have Senators. Viktor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad agent wrote a tell all book about Israeli espionage in the United States and how the Israelis could "count on" American Jews to do much of their work for them, after all it was a Jewish thing, and had nothing to do with patriotism. It is an undisputed fact that more than one hundred Israelis were detained for espionage in the United States immediately following September 11th, and inexplicably deported back to Israel before charges could filed, and more importantly before the American people were informed.

So, is it possible to admire a man like Zundel? During his infamous 1988 Holocaust Trial, a trial in which his opponents love to mention his conviction, but never mention the fact that this unjust conviction was overturned by Canada’s highest court later, Zündel apparently impressed another young man named Jurgen Neumann who had this to say about Ernst Zundel, "he is a very sincere individual. He actually seemed to believe exactly what he said… (Amazing) He never avoided any questions asked of him." This was what impressed Neumann at the time and still impressed him during the 1988 trial. According to Neumann, Zundel asked him to do many things that a mere propagandist would never request, i.e. continue to independently research the topic. This indicated to Neumann that Zündel was sincere about the subject and that he continually attempted to widen his field of factual knowledge as any historian would. Imagine that, admiring a man that does and believes in what he says. Certainly an odd concept in this day and age, being that we are so often exposed to a tremendous number of people more than willing to take whatever position they are told to take, or in the case of the politicians, whichever way the winds blow, as manifested by poll results.

In a recent article entitled "Why I admire David Irving," a gentleman by the name of Nick Herbert had this to say about the "notorious" David Irving, another controversial revisionist author, "I am not a professional historian and my knowledge of what went on in WW II is not extensive but for most of my life I have been trained in the methods of rational thinking and can follow an argument like a rat terrier. I recognize a good argument when I see one and have familiarized myself with most of the rhetorical counterfeits of reasoning. I consider myself an expert truth-seeker." Herbert then went on to say, "As a scientist, seeking truth is part of my profession." Interestingly, Herbert later went on to say the he hadn’t read a single Irving best seller, which indicates to me, that Irving, like Zundel before him, has advanced onto a "higher plane," in that they both have in many ways become bigger than life. The historian Irving rejects this, whereas the publicist Zundel embraces it, recognizing the absolute advantage it represents in "getting the message out." Another gentleman by the name of Edgar Steele recently commented on Irving’s apparent hesitation to accept this role, and insinuated that Irving preferred to hide among his facts quietly, waiting for historical revisionism to somehow become fashionable, something Zundel knows will never happen unless revisionists take risks, and that is exactly what Ernst Zundel has done for decades. Steele even declared that most of Irving’s fans probably weren’t all that interested in his historiography, but instead saw him as an symbol, someone that was willing to confront the purveyors of distorted history, something so blatantly obvious today, that only the most indoctrinated souls still deny the existence of. To take this position in regards to Irving does detract from the fact that the man is an incredible historian; unparalleled in many respects, and has an almost unmatched ability to make written history palatable to the masses, his prose is fantastic. But there is an element of truth to what Steele says as well, Irving has become bigger than life, even to his detractors, who have tried and tried to consign him to the trash heap of obscurity without success for more than twenty-five years.

An interesting detail about both Ernst Zundel and David Irving is that neither holds a degree in history, yet both men are infinitely better versed in just about every aspect of history than I am, and I hold a masters degree in history and politics. Of this, there is no doubt whatsoever. I have come to know Mr. Zundel through correspondence and am literally amazed at his ability to recall the smallest details out of the thousands of history texts he has read. I have been told that Mr. Irving has a photographic memory, which may be true, and could explain his phenomenal ability to deliver the most rational, well-conceived and coordinated presentations I have ever heard from any historian.

It has become abundantly clear to me that our allegedly fair and balanced mainstream media has seriously misrepresented both Irving and Zundel. When my Hispanic wife and I met Ms. Ingrid Zundel for the first time, we didn’t meet the "yellow-eyed Hun, black widow spider, virulent racist," that the media might have led us believe, no… we met one of the most intelligent, kindly and concerned women we had ever met. My family and I quickly became enamored with her, and she said, what should have been more than obvious at that point, "If only people would get to know Ernst, they would find that he is one of the kindest people in the world." In fact, that is exactly what I have found by corresponding with him, rather than relying on highly biased media reports and/or ADL profiles of the man.

Ernst, unlike most other revisionists, who may in fact actually feel the same way, but are too fearful to admit it, is a threat to the ADL because he not only denies that there was ever a systematic plan to gas Jews during World War II, but also implicates Zionism and its appendages, like the ADL, as the exploiters of this myth, for the purposes of fleecing the world’s Gentile population and the imposition of unreasonable, and often dubious political demands, something Congressman Jim Moran was once quick to note, and even quicker to apologize for. One must wonder if perhaps Ernst Zundel isn’t far more important than anyone ever imagined, after all, someone went to a great deal of trouble to quietly and quickly deport him from the United States to a country where they could be sure he would be effectively silenced during a period of crisis following September 11th, in the United States. In fact, Zundel, may have been one of the more vociferous whistleblowers in North America following the attack in New York, honestly pointing out undeniable, albeit uncomfortable facts, like the surreptitious deportation of more than a hundred Israeli spies from the US following the attack, as well as the extremely unpopular view that Israel was really the only entity with anything to gain from a preemptive war in Iraq. Since Zundel’s illegal arrest and deportation, we have come to learn a lot about the integrity of the United States government, namely that it is more than willing to deceive us, in order to exert its will over us. If Zundel were free today, and not under the news blackout employed to further marginalize his most rational views, he’d be unapologetically implicating Israel as the soul beneficiary of any further hostilities in Iran or Syria as well, an idea that even moderates are now lending some credence to.

So inevitably the question arises, is Ernst Zundel a threat to Canada’s National Security because he is allegedly the "patriarch" of a virulent and violently racist subculture that has never ever amounted to much in the political mainstream, or is he a threat because there is a great deal of merit to his arguments? The aforementioned Noam Chomsky is attributed with having once said, "If you don’t believe in freedom of expression for those you most despise, you don’t believe in freedom of expression." Such an incredible simple but meaningful concept, yet contemporary Americans cannot accept its pure unadulterated logic, despite paying it lip service continuously, citing it as perhaps our most important Constitutional right. The problem in America isn’t that we have no theoretical understanding of the importance of our Constitution; it’s in our application of the principles espoused within that document that we fail. Our government through the media propagates its agenda by providing us with its simple foundation, never its entire structure, and it reinforces this agenda by demonizing and marginalizing its opponents. Being that we are almost completely at the mercy of our television, oh come on, admit it, we tend to believe what is broadcast, and therefore we become the indoctrinated, not the educated, no matter what Fox news says, and we then reject, often out of hand dissenting views. This is known as "selective distortion," in advertising circles, and is a well-known concept throughout the entire media apparatus. In social psychology the tendency to accept what one is told, no matter whether or not it is accurate, and then reject later information is known as "belief perseverance." In either case, it reinforces what a well known cosmologist and top thinker named Stephen Hawkin’s had to say about knowledge and that was, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

The way in which the mainstream media has portrayed Ernst Zundel over these last several decades is absolutely erroneous. The man is not the "hate monger," he has been depicted as. Ernst Zundel is dedicated, he is honest, intelligent, even frighteningly so and has a tremendous amount of integrity. I admire Ernst Zundel, despite his views, because he himself is an admirable individual. I do not necessarily care so much that his views offend other people; I don’t have to. If they don’t like him or his views, I know for a fact; Ernst isn’t going to make them listen; he only wants to be free to speak his mind to those interested in what he has to say. Unlike our current North American governments, Zundel, the alleged "Nazi" believes in freedom of expression, and has never espoused otherwise.

We must remember that it wasn’t so long ago that the powers that be were referring to James Ennes, the author of Assault on the Liberty as an "anti-Semite, a racist and a Nazi," merely because he was relating the truth that in 1967 the Israelis intentionally attacked an American ship killing dozens and wounding nearly a hundred American sailors. The facts behind this case have been known for decades, yet, quite honestly, the same powers that seek to silence Zundel today silenced Ennes twenty some years ago in the same manner they have traditionally attacked the purveyors of truth forever, by slandering them, and going after their livelihood, reputation, family, etc… Fortunately for Ennes, Mr. Ward Boston, the military officer in charge of the USS Liberty investigation in 1967 recently came forward signing affidavits testifying to the fact that Lyndon B. Johnson ordered the attack on the USS Liberty "covered up," so that the American people, his theoretical boss, would never learn the details of what really happened. Ennes was "rehabilitated," as Zundel will one day be, but Ennes was fortunate in that his ideas didn’t land him behind bars. We can no longer afford to allow societal leper Pariah’s like Zundel, and Ennes to suffer for speaking out, when we are either too ignorant or afraid to do so.

Ernst Zundel should never have been illegally and unconstitutionally deported from the United States for having an opinion that differed from others. He should not have been thrown into a solitary confinement cell, denied access to the media and simple items, like blankets, chairs, and writing material, but he was. As previously mentioned, the man has not been charged with a crime, he is being held because his ideas implicate individuals belonging to a powerful and wealthy minority within our population in the commission of crimes. Crimes that they are in fact guilty of, and know that they are guilty of, for this reason they must imprison and silence courageous and incorruptible individuals out there like Zundel, who won’t sell out the truth, no matter what these people do to silence them.

It for this reason, that I admire Ernst Zundel, a man that refuses to apologize for having an educated opinion, a man that remains willing to sacrifice everything for others, even if they do not recognize or appreciate his efforts. Ernst Zundel is an oddity allright, maybe even eccentric, after all, in this day and age, believing in something fervently is considered radical, or worse, non-conformist.

--- Visit the author's blog 'Politically Correct Apostate' at:
http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/
cwomak@yahoo.com

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

As a matter of fact, the Palestinians were involved in the Holocaust.

See the wikipedia article on the Grand Mufti Al Husseini.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni

He was a Nazi collaborator and also the leader of the Palestinians, who sent Palestinians to fight for Nazi Germany.

So yes, the Palestinians actually did have a very direct role in the Holocaust.

As far as why all that qrswave reads is Israeli killing people, it's because she only trafficks the known antisemitic site, "What Really Happened."

And very telling that I read someone on this forum say The only good Jew is a dead Jew.

Oh yeah, and too bad the germans didn't have more time to cleanse this wonderful Planet of Jewish scorge!!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What an amazing concern about the plight of some third world camel jockey ragheads. Did not they dance in the streets in West Bank and Gaza upon hearing of 9/11 attacks? It would seem these Palestinians value American lives a lot less than you value theirs

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miss R said... "the known antisemitic site, "What Really Happened."

Rivero should sue you for libel.

But to your relieve there is always [b]someone[/b] who post [i]"The only good Jew is a dead Jew"[/i] or something like that.

How convenient.

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews... become worse... this will assist in realization of our plans... I have an excellent idea... I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth... The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”

Theodor Herzl, founder of Zionism

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why are they allowed to suffer? Why are the billion dollar Arab's turning their heads? No child should suffer and die in today's civilized world.
If there is no mutual respect between them they will not stop killing each other until the satanic war machine's bottomles belly is almost full.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Judaic Extermination Most Humane Course
(Mighty Thor, 20 Jun 06)

"Miss R": the point is precisely what u Jews are--U'RE CRIMINAL PSYCHOPATHS, collectivist conspirators, waiting to morph here in USA into Stalinist commissars, and u must be dealt with.

Talmudic insanity is well documented and exposited by such as Michael A. Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange Gods"; and Prof. (Cal-Fullerton) Kevin A. MacDonald's "Culture of Critique."

And observe "Miss R" how much more peaceful and without tensions the world would be for good while were Jews eliminated--despite fact humans would eventually be back at each others' throats, no doubt. Still, undoubted PRIMARY PROBLEM of world is Jews; eliminating them is genuine solution, with genuine attraction, justification, and compellingness.

CONCLUSION: I think Jews should be exterminated no less than disease needs eradication fm victim host, but it should be done in humane Christian fashion, Jews interned, separated by gender till they're completely extinct, an example and lesson, episode, chapter for future generations--like Jews attempted to make magnificent Germans. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't it Ariel Sharon who said that Israel owned America? The American government has been taken over (read the article by the Havard professors). The gov't taps all phones via NSA and Sprint, Verizon and AT&T. The gov't forces Amazon to stop stocking books like "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III. The gov't sits idly by as Germany prosecutes Free Speech. What a disgrace America has become. "What Really Happened" is one of the few sites that actually gets the truth to the people.
Support indy media.
Last link (before Google Books gets a call from the gov't):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Ms R, if middle eastern lands were occupied because of the Palestinian role in the holocaust, then don't you think a thousand times more land should be given to them in Europe, where they were all collaberating with Hitler; and as for the Mufti, Britain for your information too had senior politicians who were all for Hitler; so I guess a part of Britain too should go to the Jews.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Too bad the germans didn't have more time to cleanse this wonderful Planet of Jewish scorge!!"

Troll post--intented to discredit Likud's critics.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous the "new" miss r said...

Anonymous said...

Wasn't it Ariel Sharon who said that Israel owned America? The American government has been taken over (read the article by the Havard professors). The gov't taps all phones via NSA and Sprint, Verizon and AT&T. The gov't forces Amazon to stop stocking books like "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III. The gov't sits idly by as Germany prosecutes Free Speech. What a disgrace America has become. "What Really Happened" is one of the few sites that actually gets the truth to the people.
Support indy media.
Last link (before Google Books gets a call from the gov't):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

Yup, Ariel "Adolf" Sharon did say that, he was debating with a presidential candidate at the time on national radio.

FYI, Aldolf Hitler HIMSELF was "jewish" (or Ashkenazi, if you prefer the correct term). BOTH OF HIS PARENTS had "jewish" "blood" (if you will). This is an often neglected fact. Also, quite a few of his TOP LEUTENENTS were "jewish" (or Khazar/Ashkenazi). Didn't you notice that although he was "white" ("european" looking), he doesn't quite look "german"... AHHHHHH... look at the photos CAREFULLY!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you believe that Palestine was involved in the holocaust, shouldn't the real question be, why does that give Israel the right to keep attacking them even when the people that would have been involved are more than likely not even alive any longer? Why should people who have had nothing to do with it be paying for crimes of the past?

And if you believe that they should pay for past crimes, then all I can say is...Americans for generations to come should be worried considering how many people we have screwed with.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous the "new" miss r said...

Don't let the Zionists get you off track!

.............ALL ROADS LEAD TO ZION-GATE................

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can the average Merikan (and gosh that's as good as any of you can ever become) be made aware of the damage israeli actions as reported in the world press do to the perception of Merikans?
I suspect you'll be hated and loathed by all right minded people across the planet.WAKE UP!!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jews are always "murdered" and Palestinians are always "killed" - or never reported on at all. Jewish bombs fly around, as if by magic, and Palestinian bombs are always set off by "terrorists." So who do you think controls the mainstream media?

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Rivero who runs What Really Happened is a mestizo who applauds and cheerleads Mexican Invasion of the USA. Truth is we are faced with third world overrunning both US (latrinos) and Europe (negroes and arabs). I think we should deal with the third world the way Israel does but on a much much larger scale. Israel should be applauded

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I am prepared to wager that well within twenty-five years the Americans themselves will have realized what a handicap has been imposed upon them by this parasitic Jewry, clamped fast to their flesh and nourishing itself on their life-blood. It is this Jewry that is dragging them into adventures which, when all is said and done, are no concern of theirs and in which the interests at stake are of no importance to them. What possible reason can the non-Jewish Americans have for sharing the hatreds of the Jews and following meekly in their footsteps? One thing is quite certain -within a quarter of a century the Americans will either have become violently anti-Semitic or they will be devoured by Jewry.” –- Adolf Hitler, Transcript XIV, 24th February 1945

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hitler's "ideas" are responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Europeans. Yet apparently there are still lunatics who deem his ravings worth reading and quoting.
Amazing, ain't it

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous The End said...

Don't fall for the "All Jews must die!" trolls. They're most likely Israel-supporters trying to drum up more sympathy for "God's chosen people."

I hate Israel, but I don't hate Jews. There's a difference. But Zionist trolls will always come here and slander Jews. Think about it.

As for WhatReallyHappened.com, anyone who says it's anti-semitic is full of horseshit. Anyone who reads that site regularly will see quite clearly that it targets the hypocrisy of Israeli government and the Zionists working for it--NOT Jews in general.

Israel is like the U.S.--run by neo-con, war-monger zealots who love to stir up conflicts based on fear.

The governments of Israel and the U.S. are evil, and both governments deserve destruction.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger cumatac said...

Dang Man! The propaganda is working reaaally well. I think its been proven that the video tape of the arabs dancing in the streets post 9-11, was actually years old and further more due to the time diff impossible to be a live shot as reported. The only danicing fags i heard of was the israelis in New jersey! -funny huh! the so called jews want to focus on the world vivtimizing them but what of thier roles... do the research and wake up more africans died on the way to the states than the fake numbers reported -so frag off man give it a break... as a african born in america (see slavery)i say fock em all -oh yeh to the so called jews what exactly is a khazars? know ur history u are converts to judaism... u murdered the christ ur history is of deciet and destruction -period

African Man

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Jew Lies Are Legend
(Mighty Thor, 20 Jun 06_

Hey, that's outstanding--an illiterate black guy who can't spell even knows Jews lie by religion--they're sooooooo "persecuted," u know, by jealous gentiles, don't u know. Jews--psychotic murderers who yet have found a way to profit fm excess gentile stupidity--thinning then the gentiles of weaklings and suckers.

Khazars?--they were an ancient group of Asiatic horsemen, evidently, most related to Turks, I understand, settled in Caucasus area in 7th cent.; ck Arthur Koestler's "The Thirteenth Tribe." Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Michael Rivero who runs What Really Happened is a mestizo who applauds and cheerleads Mexican Invasion of the USA."

Michael Rivero isnt running the US. The jewish cabal is on both sides is. So if anyone is running the nation into the ground, you know who is doing it.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There WERE a bunch of Israeli nationals dancing & videotaping the attack on the WTC from Liberty Park in Jersey City, and they WERE Mossad. Google "Dominick Suter" and/or "Urban Moving Systems." They were detained briefly and allowed to flee back to I$rael.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger ChiefMommy Owl said...

For the record, Mahmoud Abbas said that the fault of the attacks lies squarely on the shoulders of the militants who are firing the rockets into Israel DAILY.

"President Abbas holds any group and any faction that violates the truce fully responsible for the destruction and demolitions and victims that will result because of any Israeli imminent aggression."

Civilian death are the horrific by product of all of this violence. If these militants (note that they were referred to as militants in this article and not terrorists) had not have been firing rockets into Israeli civilian areas, there would have been no targeted attack against them.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous the "new" miss r said...

Woooohhoooooo!!!!!

This website is getting really hot!!! It's nice to see so many informed people here (as well as some "jewish" mouthpieces, I guess they decided that Fox, CNBC, CBC, etc isn't enough).

Keep up the good work! Ah, and I've got some really HARD-TO-FIND ?????...... that's will soon hit the internet ---- GOOD TIMES AHEAD (as well as the Zionist threat, boo...).

I'll update everyone when it is ready!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israeli reactions to the granting of 3000 palestinian workers into Israel: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3265315,00.html

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's always interesting how Israeli Intelligence and therefore, Israeli Command and Control, know exactly what car will be traveling down what road in what direction. Almost as if they're part of the planning. Or they're lying. Or they have mastered the realm of "Prescience".

But we must remind - the war is not a war it is about US war crimes. The war is not about national security, it's about securing a half trillion a year in US defense spending. The war is not about commodities or securing energy, the war is about securing high margin risk premium margins for big oil. If peace broke out, oil would only be less than 30 bucks a barrel. It's about profits for the nobility and avarice for our politicians who serve them so well.

How screwed up can it get when the FBI has no case aginst Osama for 911, yet a Virdinia court lynches stunbelt defendant, Mousaui,for participating in an Osama gamed 911!

Murtha the born again hero - or Murtha the war criminal who voted to invade trying to cover his air conditioned fat arse!

These guys must think heaven smells like their bowell movements - dick heads.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't seem to find the problem with this statement. Perhaps I attribute it to a regional dialect of Europeans that passives are common in daily conversation. Forget the semantic and syntactical analysis. One thing that people of basic English language proficiency should be able to read into this is that an Israeli air strike bombed a car and killed a Palestinian child in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, one Palestinian witnesses said. Yet, the translation remains the same: a murderer is a murderer, is a murderer, is a murderer....

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Citisucks said...

I haven't read through the comments yet and plan too, but here is the thing, white people never take responsibility for the non-white people they kill. Even sader yet no one ever seems to hold white people responsible for the non-white people they kill. Good article qrswave.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

These anti-semitic morons crack me the f**ck up. They just love to get all high and mighty about how AWFUL Israel is. Take a look in the mirror, morons. Have you seen what YOUR sanctimonious nation has done recently? Shall I judge YOU pasty white pseudo-Christian morons by what YOUR government has done to innocent children, old people, and cripples over the past 3 years? Innocent blood shed by "the Jews" doesn't amount to squat compared to the bucketfuls of blood your Christian brethern have spilt in the name of "freedom".

They do it because the get ripped to shreds by deranged bombers every few weeks or months.

The US does it because 19 muslims armed with box-cutters allegedly outfoxed the most sophisticated defense systems ever devised by man.

Yeah, right.

Take two Jerry Falwells and call me in the morning, assholes.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Hey "Citisucks" what's ur problem w. white folk?--didn't u know that's what most of us are here, white? If it comes down to brown vs. white, I'm for white people, u rather brainless moron. U upbraid white folk, but never say anything about Jews, stupid ass. U're a stupid shit, "citisucks"--every Christian knows it ain't right to kill but for self-defense as it will come back to "haunt" in justice, so to speak. U're so full of shit, u stink. Problem with world is kikes and the small minority of suckalongs (most others are dupes), like u, who help cover things for Jews. "Citisucks," u're just a stupid punk. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Hey kike at 9:24 PM, didja know kikes think God worships them, like pimp seeks the whore; God can't resist u stinking, scummy, hook-nosed puke, eh? So then kikes are "persecuted" because gentiles are jealous, eh? Death to Jew puke. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Albion Moonlight said...

That's it, we're cutting off our $3 billion a year! That's what you get for criticizing Christian White America's God given right to kill anyone we want!

Alright, well this just sucks all around.

Perhaps there are just a bunch of nutjobs on all sides of the idiot "major religions" who merely want to accelerate the arrival of "judgement day".

Continue the horror folks. It's a great solution!

peace

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Albion Moonlight said...

Jesus, mighty Thor. And you call yourself a "Christian"?

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There WERE a bunch of Israeli nationals dancing & videotaping the attack on the WTC from Liberty Park in Jersey City, and they WERE Mossad." Lessee, so you are saying professional Israeli intelligence operatives working under cover were dancing in New Jersey while videotaping WTC collapse. I'm prepared to believe they were Israelis who understood that the US would now attack Arabs, but professional spies dancing in broad daylight - give me a break, man!

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Yes, we Christians tend to be sinful, and boy are we gonna do a lot of sinning as we remove these Jews and co-conspirators. U're just a slimey coward, "albion"; Christians are most effective as we're honest w. ourselves. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Albion Moonlight said...

No, I'm a fucking humanist thor. I don't give a good god damn about any of your supposed holy books, musty old legends that are neither consistent or properly translated.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

U're a stupid, ignorant shit, "albion"--"humanist" indeed, u pretentious, brainless moron. What do u really know about "translations," ignorant moron? Do u know what Talmud is all about?--holding God worships the Jews, not being able to resist Jew-puke. Did u know kikes consider God loves Jews collectivistically, like male is attracted to female? U're religion is to make airs to effect u're above the human tragedy, necessity to kill or be killed. Death to the Jews. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Albion Moonlight said...

Oh ferchrissakes. I'm not Jewish. You really are a piece of work dude. Every once in a great while you say something sensible.

"holding God worships the Jews, not being able to resist Jew-puke"

Honestly, what the fuck does that mean dude?

"Did u know kikes consider God loves Jews collectivistically, like male is attracted to female? "

Are you saying that jews believe that God wants to fuck them? I really think yer a pretty mixed up little racist. Not much more. Not much less.

Cheers.

Peace QRS. Keep up the good blogging.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Yes, we Christians tend to be sinful, and boy are we gonna do a lot of sinning as we remove these Jews and co-conspirators."
Look Thor. The only chance for you to remove these jews will come in the conditions of total collapse and civil war in US. Looking at the historic precedents there is no doubt in my mind that Israel will interfere in any such US civil war and will protect the jewish populations militarily. Facing one of the best equipped and trained armies in the world
your paramilitaries won't do a lot of sinning - they will do a lot of dying. Israel always interferes on behalf of Jews worldwide usually sending paratroopers. Since the US jewish population is so large the paratroopers will likely be followed by something like an expeditionary corps of mechanized infantry and armor. I would expect Mexico to also interfere to protect its nationals and to formally annex the Southwest. Canadians may interfere and very possibly japs and chinks. So you'll have a lot of competition in the sinning business

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Ck the Talmud u incredibly stupid ass! Of course everyone is racist, stupid, pretentious moron. Racism is loyalty, and everyone is ultimately racist in favor of mixed or non-mixed race. Racism is AXIOMATIC, dumbass. Oh and yes, Jews believe God "likes" them "best," "loving" them the way male is attracted to female, yes indeed, u amazing fool. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

To "anon" at 10:03 PM: yes, Jews need be removed immediately, with extreme prejudice. Did u see title of this blog we're now annotating? Israel, Israel, Israel--pretty soon INDUCTIVE LOGIC will begin to kick in for some, and they'll begin to realize "it's the Jews, stupid" (Ed Steele, ConspiracyPenPal.com)--along with their gentile suckalongs, like the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR--see TheNewAmerican.com for best expo). Christians must begin to understand Christianity is antisemitic and designed to be that way--this all easily confirmed in the text. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hitler wasnt wrong just slow !!! People throughout history have been trying to grease the Yid disease upon this planet .... 1 Iranian Nuke will do wonders, even if it costs the whole of the middle east, I think it would be worth it .... and you skinbag Yanks need few as well, I thought Osamas flying Circus was great on 911 skydiving yanks all over the place, but damn Im so waiting for the CNN reruns of seeing NY or LA turned to Glass .... ohhh be still my wishful heart, and you'll never even see it coming... people keep telling me "Noone could ever get a nuke into the US" and I go bullshit those retards couldnt stop 150 tonnes of coke being shipped into the country each week, so how the hell are you amoeba brained morons think your going to stop a large briefcase nuke ??? Heres hoping Xmas comes early for the rest of the world, and heres a toast hoping most of you JEWSA freaks dont see New Years.

Me Here

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Come on, people. I don't expect everyone to agree on everything, but I do expect people to remain civil and refrain from threatening to harm groups of people based on their race, religious belief, or national origin.

Whatever happened to individual accountability? A person should be punished for his or her own conduct and no one else's.

Either keep the comments civil and intelligent, or I'll be forced to close the comments section because I will not censor based on content.

It's an all or nothing policy. We're all adults (I assume), so we can follow rules of common deceny without too much trouble, I hope.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger ChiefMommy Owl said...

qrswave, Many comments in this section outwardly encourage violence and genocide and I beg you to delete them.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

chiefmommy owl,

Qrswave is a classmate of mine from law school. I begged her to delete comments similar to these for months now, and she has steadfastly ignored me.

I am actually surprised that she all of a sudden is saying she may close off comments.

My own solution is to delete comments based on hatred or absolute, stunning ignorance. (aka Citisucks who says things like "all white people are evil.")

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it hysterical to read the bigoted redneck rascist comments of some, But when its on the other foot it is all of a sudden threatening and encouraging violence and genocide .... ROFLOLOLOLOL .... what about the civilian deaths the JEWSA and its YID buddies have given to the planet .... you people are always far to silent on these causes , but as long as the beers cold the burgers hot and reality TV is playing all night long, you morons keep up the same mind numbing boring empty phrased rhetoric about how it can be solved ....

This is why I comment thus, you people are just to funny to be taken seriously, and you are all so easily led ...

Me Here

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trollerific Lighting Rod Title Like...
I think itz all the same troll under all the stupid namez under dis post

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Blogger ChiefMommy Owl said...

I was the one who made the comment about genocide, yet I said nothing bigoted, racist or redneck. You said nothing in your post that even resembles rational thought. Why don't you go sit in a seedy room somewhere and highlight in your copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." I'll be out enjoying all of my wealth and power.

 
At Tuesday, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a nice hate site this is. And so many proud displays of obvious intelligence!

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually prefer Shelley .... Fat Old Bird.

"A man, to be greatly good, must imagine intensely and comprehensively; he must put himself in the place of another and of many others; the pains and pleasures of his species must become his own."

Wake up loser your wasting data

Me Here

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I said your way to slow .... and very very easy ROFLOL

Me Here

Well wasted far to much time on you inbreds, ta ta for now

Me Here

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Verdade101 said...

Rather amusing...I see the Zio's are at work trying to discredit this article whether inserting white supremacist jargon to invoke the holocaust. So predictable but amusing.

As a journalist who covers the Israel/Palestine issue I'd like to address a few misconceptions in the US.

According to the NY Times June 11th article on the Gaza Beach killings, Israel averages about 750 missiles/rockets/mortars per month into Palestinian territories during 'peace' times, most killing civilians. That number has escalated dramatically since the Beach killings they are refusing to allow non-Israeli investigators to investigate. No, you never or rarely hear about Israel's complete disregard for cease fires. Like the US with Iraq, (we never stopped bombing and raiding Iraq between 1991 and 2003...we just kept it out of the news). Israel has never stopped attacking the Palestinians. This article is yet another instance, with five child casualties.

I also know from my partner on the ground in Gaza that the attacks by Israel on the Palestinian civilians continue 24/7, almost without let up since June 9th. Ironically the standard line, even in today's NYT is that Hamas refuses to recognize Israel. That's pure BS, a red herring, an issue designed to prevent any progress toward resolution.

Hamas, the PLO or any government in Palestine cannot recognize Israel because Israel has no boundaries. Which Israel is it they are supposed to recognize? 1947 Israel as designated by the UN Partition. 1949 Israel which includes territory it conquered. Pre June 6, 1967 Israel, the green line? Post 1973 Israel after Egypt and Syria reacquired their land taken in 1967. Oslo Israel which keeps the water rights and natural gas reserves along with choice real estate? Camp David of 2000 Israel which took more choice land, created two Islands of Palestine and complete control of all airspace, water, ports and entry points under Israel's control? Current Israel which it is trying to take via the wall? Which Israel?

This demand is a non-issue designed to keep sympathy on Israel's side while requiring the Palestinians acknowledge a nation with no set borders that refuses to recognize them? No nation, given this dynamic should acknowledge Israel. It has no borders and the borders originally given it, Israel has already expanded well beyond these and still refuses to adhere to the original agreement of 1947 creating it and an independent Palestinian state.

"Hamas refuses to recognize Israel"...It's a non-issue, a stalling tactic...and it continues to work because people don't understand the facts.

As for the nation of Israel, meaning the followers of one faith, Abraham, Moses and the rest, all of the Islamic world recognizes the nation of Israel. What isn't recognized is the NATION STATE of Israel because this is a political unit, the formation of man which has no set boundaries. That's the difference.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous the "new" miss r said...

Verdade101 said...

Rather amusing...I see the Zio's are at work trying to discredit this article whether inserting white supremacist jargon to invoke the holocaust. So predictable but amusing. ...

Thank you Verdade101 for that informative piece. Another informed person... it appears that this "internet" thing is a "good thing", in that people are becoming more informed than ever before in the history of human kind. And not a moment sooner, since we are also witnessing perhaps the largest mass idiocracy movement in history as well -- with the 3 fundamental cults/"religions", i.e. Christianity, Talmudic/Judaism, and Islam. This is not intended to be offensive, but if you open your eyes and listen with your ears and hearts, you'll notice there is a strong discord with what they "preach" and how they "act." Not to mention this whole issue of ignorance, blind-devotion, and "faith" -- in which if you have a strong logical, scientific background, you can easily identify circular arguments, dogma, simple fallacies (and more complex fallacies, if you're the really smart type), and just blind-devotion, blind-devotion that is devoid of reason and compassion.

But, that is not to say that everything these 'religions/cults' teach is useless. One should be able to separate the mass hysteria from the individual person (or group of people)... that is, most people, want to believe that they are doing the "right thing". And some of what they are preached, do make some sense. The problem lies in the political and dogmatic baggage that often accompanies such 'belief'.

Now this is coming from someone who is very educated in said religion and other religion -- a prime candidate for such posts/position (of which I obviously declined).

Life is best lived if we all put a little extra effort in our daily thoughts and actions. When we learn to depend on ourselves first, we become better persons and more productive and beneficial to society and the planet. One thing I have noticed is that these 3 "religions" seem to be constantly at war with one another for the last several thousand years (less for Islam since it is newer) -- and this can't be a good sign. And the worst part is, the conflict spills over to other innoncent people.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.... when will people learn. Do these fools realize that all the wealth and power they 'accumulated' at the cost of other people's suffering and the destruction of the planet, SIMPLY disappears after they die?!! And how many years is that?! 70? 80? 90 at best, and then they simply die and 'disappear', and all they dogma and beliefs they held so dearly when they were alive, also simply disappears.

This is not necessarily a 'sad thing', as it is a natural cycle of life -- just as we were born not remember or knowing what it was like before 'we came into this existence', death is just the reverse process. We weren't necessarily sad before we were born, so it is unlikely we will be 'sad' after we die. All of this fighting, and hating, and killing, and dogma -- is really in-essential...

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the moron who said that the third-worlders should be kicked out of U.S./Europe, it is cause of historically consistent use and abuse of the third-world and its people that you can call yourself first world and have the standard of living that you attribute to your own intellect rather than your own collective corruption (slavery, child labour, war over resources). It's what makes the world go around, but but you should have a more intellectual appraisal of the world situation than 'third world not in my backyard'. But then again, U.S. is so intellectually stagnant...Oprah reported that the US high school math students are ranked 25th in the world. :)

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Harry Lyme said...

My own solution is to delete comments based on hatred or absolute, stunning ignorance.

+

"the known antisemitic site, "What Really Happened."

=

moron

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous AWTD said...

Here's my two cents. Most Judaism is a scam. If you're Meyer Lansky and you've got the money to go anywhere, any time, any place, the pyramid scheme works for you. When the economy goes belly up (which it is guaranteed to do every few decades or so given plagues and wars), you're stuck with the actions of your fellow Jews and a confession to witchcraft (the Talmud) before it was even illegal.

Israel is also a scam. (Why else nuke 100,000 native Jewish children in 1951, 4 years after Israel's inception?) Once upon a time, when Palestine was less than 10% Jewish, a Bronze Age people controlled the lands that held most of the world's oil supplies just as the airplane and the automobile was being invented. It should've been an easy thing to steal it off of them but for the sheer speed of readily available technology. Now it costs mega billions just to keep a society in the desert afloat in anything remotely comparable to a western society.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comes from their racist ideology...
http://www.cactus48.com/verses.html ... In which they regard the Palestinians to be cockroaches... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/palestinians.html ... Just as their holiest book, the tal-MUD teaches... http://www.hoffman-info.com/talmudtruth.html The tal-MUD teaches them and they say among themselves... that ONLY the jEWS are human beings .... NON-jEWS are beasts and excrement...... AND jEWS are the Master race... http://100777.com/node/603/
They have been committing mass murder and terrorism upon the Palestinians from the very beginning... http://www.deathmasters.com ... Starting from when they ethnically cleansed OVER 750,000 Palestinians from their homes, properties, treasures, businesses and lands ... http://www.robincmiller.com/pales2.htm ...Then TOYALLY demolished OVER 530 towns from the face of the earth !!!! http://www.palestineremembered.com ....
One village's
story is told at Deir Yassin ... http://www.deiryassin.org ... iSRAEL has continued its policy of terror and massacres ever since...

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

Both qrswave and Michael Rivero on WRH are quite smart. They engage in denial of antisemitism ("I don't hate Jews, MY BEST FRIENDS ARE JEWS!") and then proceed to state every sort of conspiracy theory imaginable about Israel/Jews.

A mere denial of antisemitism, and even being friends with Jews, does not a non-antisemite make.

Here are some examples of Michael Rivero's stunning and obvious antisemitism:

http://www.sicmuse.com/weblog/

It debunks WRH for about 2 years straight, pointing to continuous lies/antisemitism throughout.

I have done the same on this site, and took a grim pleasure in pointing out qrswave's statement I cannot debate you on the Middle East, because I really don't know the history."

(said while pretending to be an expert)

WhatReallyHappened and this site publicly have espoused the notion that Israel was behind 9/11. That alone is enough for most (sane) people to conclude rabid antisemitism.

I am sorry, but one cannot have a headline of "Israel, Israel, Israel, Kill, Kill, Kill - that's all I ever read online" and then claim I am not an antisemite, I am only an antizionist, JEWS ARE MY BEST FRIENDS!"

Yeah, whatever. Keep on thinking that to yourself, qrswave, and readers of WRH.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

And I find it funny that qrswave is suddenly NOW upset about seeing death threats against Jews on her site, given it has existed for months on end now. (but BOOHOOHOO over the Danish cartoons!)

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY does the suffering of the Palestinians get so little coverage ? .... When ever Palestinians get killed or maimed, it barely gets mentioned... Yet when jEWS are affected, it gets repeated over and over and OVER again and again ... even though the Palestinian death toll is THREE times the iSRAELIS and their wounded are TEN times that of the iSRAELIs ... http://www.ifamericansknew.org ... The reason we get propaganda and don't get the whole truth.... is because zIONISTS OWN or CONTROL ALL of the media... http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/24media2.htm ... So bad news about jEWS NEVER get covered ... but, when the Palestinians retaliate against the iSRAELI terror, it get UN-due coverage ... jEWS are mentioned by name ... Palestinians are usually shown as a faceless and nameless mob ....
Check Out... http://www.jewwatch.com ...and... http://www.amenusa.org ....

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

F.Y.I. BOTH Christians AND Muslims LOVE and revere Jesus ... The Jewish Talmud calls Jesus a sorcerer and his mother Mary a whore... http://www.crescentandcross.com ... Their "holy" book, the Talmud says it is OKAY to LIE to NON-Jews and for an adult to have sex with a baby and with children ,,, READ it for yourself ... http://www.abbc.net/talmud/index.htm ...
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud.htm ... Their religion is truly a secret religion that they don't anyone to really find out about ... In fact, a Jew is forbidden under penalty of death from revealing the REAL truth aout the Talmud ... It's time to WAKE UP folks !!! ... http://www.christianparty.net/talmud.htm ...AND ... America !!... YOU TOO !!! ... WAKE UP !!!! .... http://wake-up-america.net ...

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Miss R are these guys antisemitic or they just misguided Jews led astray? They believe that Israel shouldn't even be allowed to exist. If they aren't anti semitic for taking such stands, the why should non Jews be labeled anti semitic for believing the same?

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Jewish Terrorist.

After reading and learning about the terrorist attacks today which killed 3 children in Palestine and injured 100’s more, I was saddened and deeply concerned. The Palestinian children will end up in Heaven and will pray for their families and their cause, may god bless them and their family in winning the war of freedom from the illegal occupation of their land by the Jewish terrorism and the terrorist state of Israel.

The Jewish terrorists and the terrorist state of Israel have worked very hard to dismantle the Muslims living in Palestine. The Palestine were the same people who during the Holocaust agreed to allow the Jewish people to enter and live in the land of Palestine as refugees, they could share, work and eat along all the other Muslims and Christians living peacefully in a common land. The land which shared the focus points for all three religions, Islam, Christianity and Judaism.

However the mischief of the mischievous nation could not resist the chance in having their own land, therefore started a bloody terrorism holocaust in which the victims were Muslims. Today is just another example of acts of terrorisms on the children of Palestine. The Jewish terrorist as well as conducting operations at grass root level have the power of political terror and terror at International level too. The world biggest terror network is not the myth of Al Qaeda but is the terrorist state of Israel. This self imposed and illegal state not only commits terrorist atrocities in Palestine but it also paints a picture of itself being the victim and the real victims being terrorists.

The blessings that Allah has brought upon his Palestinian nation are so great than sophisticated military with high-tech equipment and financially rich terrorist state of Israel are not able to defeat the stone throwing youth of Palestine. Palestine is a nation which does not have a military army, does not have any military equipment or vehicles and hardly has a financial system in place yet is able to confront the demon terrorist state of the Jewish. God really is with the Muslims.

A good Jew is a dead one and so true is that. There has only existed on nation which is responsible and has caused havoc in the world today and throughout history and that nation is non other than the Jews, today is just another confirmation that terrorist nation of the Jews is the one and only mischievous nation that has ever existed. Days are limited and I would like to remind you that when ever there was Pharos there was always one Moses and today the terrorist state of Israel is the Pharos and the Islam is Moses.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger cumatac said...

Mighty Thor said...
Jew Lies Are Legend
(Mighty Thor, 20 Jun 06_

Hey, that's outstanding--an illiterate black guy who can't spell even knows Jews lie by religion--they're sooooooo "persecuted," u know, by jealous gentiles, don't u know. Jews--psychotic murderers who yet have found a way to profit fm excess gentile stupidity--thinning then the gentiles of weaklings and suckers.

Thor... ur a d%*k frag my spellin missa cuz like u seh um jus a ill-it-err-ite lil N*&&er huh -Dumb Twat! im actually quite educate though i pay little attention to spellin when online -this is hobbish for me -not that important specially spellin so please... along with the jews u hate soooooo much -F*&k off punk! ya chump! illiterate black -u sound like u think all blacks are ignant! all blacks are stupid and all jews are zionist? wake up u sh*t even i an illiterate black man as u put it dont make sweeping generalizations -u got some nerves dude mighty thor -i can imagine u arm chair freedom fighter u -ur a big part of the problems of the world today


-african man

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger brisa said...

I suppose Justin Raimondo is also an anti-Semite. http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9170

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verdade101, I have been very troubled for literally my whole life (I'm 57) by the genocide waged by the Israeli leaders against the people of Palestine and would very much appreciate a link to more of your journalism. Thank You in Advance if you can do this and thank you very much for your words here. It is so pleasant to simply be able to read the facts of this situation and to make up my own mind about things rather than to have to settle for empty, hateful words that teach us nothing useful.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Qrswave's Raging Blog Success--Built Upon Honesty
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

I think qrswave can feel quite well gratified for having such a brilliant blog--we got such great reactions for this one, including the usual revelations of "Miss R."

I think one of the neat features for this blog is the repetitive wording in the headline at top, "Israel, Israel,...." For repetition induces--that is, it (repetition) encourages INDUCTIVE LOGIC.

Thus Jews seek to pre-empt gentile inductive logic by means of their hysterical anti-antisemitism campaign. For antisemitism arises naturally by means of common sense and human inductive logic. Jews are conspirators; Judaism is conspiracy, lying, and fraud, and worship thereof. Judaism-Talmudism is in truth a war-program in worship of a war-god who is obsessively in "love" with Jews understood collectivistically, Jews the ultimate narcissists-solipsists (collectivist solipsists). (See Michael A. Hoffman II's "Judaism's Strange Gods"; Ted Pike's "Israel--Our Duty, Our Dilemma," and Prof. Kevin A. MacDonald's "Culture Of Critique"--these authors all have websites too, google-search.)

People observe an objective reality most naturally, and then the inescapable conclusion regarding Judeo-oligarchal conspiracy and the role of Israel, a major detail.

And yes, we know "Miss R," the truth is antisemitic, as are all non-semites in obedience to God--tough. Censorship doesn't change the reality which people perceive, "Miss R"; Jews suck, and people hate Jews for good, substantial reason.

Thus hatred is natural and actually virtuous and healthy reaction people have for these psychotic-hysterics called "Jews." Gentile hatred of Jews is honest reaction--not presumptive program which Jews induce upon themselves a priori towards gentiles by means of religious indoctrination.

U'd really be doing best for Israel and Jews, "Miss R," if u kept ur dumb mouth shut, but of course we know u psychotic Jews cannot, just cannot resist--resist that urge to color and "spin" reality, which u Jews are so sure, "Miss R," is subjective.

Thus slowly but steadily we patriots, journalists, and bloggers work at dissecting this great Judeo-oligarchal Babel of confusion which clouds and befuddles the minds of the goyim.

This MAMMON which presently conducts Orwellian "perpetual war" against the gentile world RESTS UPON HERESY IN GENERAL, in specific then what we could call a heretical-complex, conspiracy then taking advantage of these heresies among the people.

Thus one understands the jealousy of "Miss R" for qrswave's raging success as blogger-journalist: TRUTH IS NOT KIND TO JEWS (or any other criminals, liars, frauds, and murderers) in sight of honest people who understand a God-given objective reality, the same reality for all peoples, regardless of Jews' insane, hubristic, and obsessionate pretensions.

The real and fundamental cultural war is that btwn Judeo-oligarchs of Council on Foreign Relations and gentile suckalongs, SUBJECTIVISM, versus the objectivistic people, patriotic and honest, who believe in rule-of-law.

CONCLUSION: Of course "Miss R" favors censorship and depriving the people of information; she's a Jew, narcissist, subjectivist, and pathologically hysterical. Honest elections and death to the Fed.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

My goodness.

Can you hear yourself?

You people are murderous racists.

Cut it out, you are frightening.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

You can hate someone before you even know them?
You can hate someone because they are Jewish?
What does that say about you? Snap out of it.

Snap out of it before you take that small step to act on those words.

Stop the hate before you throw away your humanity and do something you will regret.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Antisemitism: Obedience To God
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

Wanderer: U (like all Jews) HATE TRUTH, u brainless, hysterical, Judaic scum. TALMUD (basic document, order-of-battle) of Jews IS A HATE DOCUMENT, a war-plan against gentiles. Ck references given above, u hysterical Jew filth.

So WHAT DOES HATRED OF JEWS SAY ABOUT ME?--hatred of Jews is healthy and necessary for survival. Hatred of Jews indicates honesty, virtue, and patriotism. Ck for more essays by me at NewNation.org under "commentary" heading and "Apollonian" moniker.

U "Wanderer" are simply scummy ally of Jew murderers--I'm honest patriot. Hatred of Jews is OBEDIENCE TO GOD. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You ignorant fuckin maggots.

Go ahead, start killing Jews.

I'm waiting for you.

PILLAR
OF
FAITH,
?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

I am not a Jew. As if that matters.

Just free from hate.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For over half a century now the Jews have been screaming about the injustice of the holocaust and at the same time perpetrating injustices on the Palestinians. Occupying their lands and murdering those who resist.
Today the Palm Beach Jew who doesn't look the least bit middle eastern to me, and neither is he profiled as middle eastern looking at U.S. airports, goes over to Israel to bulldoze Palestinian homes, occupy their lands and then build a fence to protect himself. These land rights he says were left behind by his great great great grandpa 4000 years ago.
I mean is this all a joke or unparalelled evil?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

My friend, you are not aware of the truth but poisoned by hatred and lies.

Hatred of a whole people is neither healthy nor nessessary for anything, lease of all for "survival". There is no threat, there is no need to "defend yourself" through hatred of a whole people.

You say "Hatred of Jews is obedience to God". What kind of a God sanctions the hatred for a whole people? You are either following a God of hate or you are misunderstanding your religion. There is only one way to live, and that is through co-existance. Throw away your hatered.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

Stop for a moment and breathe. Read to your words.

You must stop this sort of hatred from consuming your entire humanity, if it hasn't already.

Take heed of this voice of reason.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Jews: Disease-Of-Opportunity Victimizing Gentiles--They Gotta Go
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

To "Pillar of Faith"--yes, u stinking psychopathic Jew puke, we gotta get u before u get us. U're "waiting"?--yes indeed, but we already knew that, didn't we?--u stupid punk-ass Jew puke. Jew scum are always "waiting," always have been, eh, Jew shit?

To "Wanderer": Punk, it's u who isn't aware of truth. U didn't read my post to u, did u, u stupid ass? I give references, Jew scum. Jew Talmud is hatred of gentile, period.

Hey tell me, Jew "Wanderer": IS REALITY OBJECTIVE or not? And God which presides over virtuous hatred of Jews is God of objective reality.

"No threat" fm Jews?--do u think anyone should take the word of an hysterical Jew-loving, traitorous shit like u, "Wanderer"?

CONCLUSION: No, we're not going to "throw away" the necessary hatred of Jew murderers, "Wanderer" scum. And we won't willingly "co-exist" w. Jews anymore than health can tolerate that parasitical disease-of-opportunity called "Jews." God of justice requires elimination of Jews--gotta get 'em, before they kill us. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Citisucks said...

People,
I agree that Israel has done much wrong and should stop murdering people. But can we stop with the death threats against all jews. If you advocate the systematic killing of a whole religion than you are just as bad as the rich white male corporate terrorists who seek to kill all the non-white people.

Qrswave,
Please keep the comment section open as if is a valuable way for many of us to communicate. I think ignorant people reflect badly on themselves and not you. One thing you might consider doing is banning annonymous comments, so that if people want to comment than they must actually use there names and must actually be held accountable for what they say.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

My friend, I will not pretend that I am not hurt by what I see here. This is a forum of hatred and nothing less. Despite that, I am far from hysterical, nor do I love any particular race or religion above another.

To answer your question; Yes. I believe you need to take these words to heart: There is no "threat".

Creating a threat is a well known way of creating fear and hatred in a group of people. I reccomend that you go off and discuss these political issues with a wider audience in order to get a broader perspective about events that are happening in the world. Clearly world issues are bothering you; it would only do you good to learn more.

Trust me, you still have a lot to learn. Please do yourself the favour of escaping from this hatred which you feel. Anybody with that much hatred has made a wrong turn; stop and think. What you see is a percieved threat and you are using this perception to justify a hatred for an entire people. There is no threat.



Judaism is not about hatred of non Jewish people. Period. Judaism is a religion which concerns itself with life, knowledge and self actualization. No religion is about hatred for an entire people. Judaism is not an exception.

Two Jewish quotes:

The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quiet, alone with the heavens, nature and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be.
- Anne Frank

It is clear also that "serving God" was equated with "serving the living". The best of the Jewish people, especially the Prophets and Jesus, contended tirelessly for this. Judaism is thus no transcendental religion; it is concerned with life as we live it and as we can, to a certain extent, grasp it, and nothing else. It seems to me, therefore, doubtful whether it can be called a religion in the accepted sense of the word, particularly as no "faith" but the sanctification of life in a supra-personal sense is demanded of the Jew.
But the Jewish tradition also contains something else, something which finds splendid expression in many of the Psalms, namely, a sort of intoxicated joy and amazement at the beauty and grandeur of this world, of which man can form just a faint notion. This joy is the feeling from which true scientific research draws its spiritual sustenance, but which also seems to find expression in the song of birds. To tack this feeling to the idea of God seems mere childish absurdity.
- Albert Einstein, 1934

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

This is from a Muslim Arab man who does love the Jewish people.

Tawfik Hamid - Why do you hate the Jews?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

"Wanderer" Demonstrates Judaic Hystericism In Service Of Lies
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

No, I don't "trust" u, Jew "Wanderer," as u're typical Jew liar. And u continue to demonstrate typical Jew psychosis and pathology as u don't even acknowledge my citations for FACT Judaism is worship of murder of gentiles.

As far as u're concerned "Citisucks," u cowardly little puke of a punk, qrswave's blogs are successful, to extent they are, as there is no censorship. Worst thing qrswave could do is listen to a stupid-ass little shit like u, who knows so much of nothing.

But u can "trust" me, Jew "Wanderer": U ARE A TOTALLY PSYCHOTIC JEW-LIAR and MORON who simply now determines to repeat urself ad nauseum, and thus reduces urself sufficiently to absurd for all readers of this blog. Want to read more about Jews?--ck JewishTribalReview.org. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

Look.

Look at what you have written.

You are overflowing with hatred for an entire people in response to a fear.

"Jews--gotta get 'em, before they kill us."

The Jewish people are not out to kill you.

This writing is paranoia and you are acting irrationally.

I have viewed both websites you sent me and I will not give them the credit of further mention; as I said - you need to learn about these issues from a broad range of perspectives. If you go to hate-sites you will only develop a frame of hatred.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

I quite like Anne Frank, here are the words of a young Jewish girl living in fear of her life.

"I don't think of all the misery but of the beauty that still remains."
"Everyone has inside of him a piece of good news. The good news is that you don't know how great you can be! How much you can love! What you can accomplish! And what your potential is!"
"I keep my ideals, because in spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart."

You are making a big mistake. Stop this hatred.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

"Wanderer" Continues To Repeat
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

No Jew "Wanderer"--U NEED TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TALMUDIC-JUDAIC WORSHIP OF HATRED AGAINST THE GENTILE. LOOK, LOOK, URSELF, U JEW-LIAR SCUM.

Kike--how do u know Jews aren't out to kill us gentiles?--killing gentiles is entire purpose of Jew Kabala, verified fm Judaic Zohar. See above citations given to u, psychotic Jew-liar scum.

Jews are murdering monsters who worship hatred of truth, which truth Jews call hate. Continue to repeat urself, Jew-psychopath. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous The Wanderer said...

You are citing sources which are not valid in order to justify your hatred for an entire people.

Do not be blinded by fear and hate.

Open your mind and your heart.



Goodnight. Plesent dreams - preferably ones which do not include murder.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

"Wanderer" Retires After Day's Work Of Lying, Disinfo
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

U're the murderer, as of truth, Jew "Wanderer," and a scummy, stinking, putrid liar (as when u said u're not Jew, then quoting Jew Ann Frank). No, it's ur sources "which are not valid," Jew-liar, "Wanderer." I'm not blinded; I see the antisemitic truth--and I heed Christ's words about u Jew scum, "vipers, liars and murderers" u are. Thanks much for ur demonstration of Jew lies and disinfo technique, Jew filth. Good riddance to u. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not a forum of hatred. It is a forum that announces the ongoing murder of Palestinians, especially Palestinian children, by the Israeli Terrorist State. We demand the right to discuss and protest against the people, Jewish or not, who attempt to justify the terrorism that kills, wounds, traumatises and imprisons millions of Palestinians. Opening one's mind and heart will not put an end to this modern-day genocide. Discussing it and objecting to it is the beginning of putting an end to it. If the genocide of the Palestiniand people is being perpetrated by a so-called nation/state and the people who control that so-called nation/state are REQUIRED to be Jewish if they are to be given the higher level of citizenship that is available, then by god we are going to talk about the people doing this by referring to them as Jews. There is no need to pretend that this can be avoided or that there is anything wrong with it.

When you create a state/nation and require Jewish citizenship, and operate an apartheid society that excludes everyone who is not Jewish then you are engaging in an absolute form of racism. It's going to be talked about. It's going to be protested, and hopefully it will soon come to an end as any form of racism should.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Racism Is Outstanding Virtue Of Loyalty, Pride
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

U start off well, "anon" at 8:02, but fall down miserably at the end.

For RACISM IS VIRTUE OF LOYALTY AND PRIDE in one's people, period--ck any dictionary.

Further, RACISM IS AXIOMATIC, everyone is racist necessarily as everyone is loyal to some race, all races ultimately analyzable to mixed or non-mixed. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Genocide against the Palestinians".
Please define genocide for me. Then please bring up the population figures of Palestinians in 1948 and 2006.


"When you create a state/nation and require Jewish citizenship".
There are 56 Muslim states. One Jewish state. In Israel 15 religions are recognised, in moderate Jordan all Jews are prevented from gaining citizenship because they are Jewish.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"apartheid society that excludes everyone who is not Jewish"
There are Arab Muslims who are represented in government and are even in the Supreme Court. Look it up.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Congratulations on turning the comments section into a turnstile for namecalling, threats of genocide and defamation.

I will not comment on the former(namecalling and threats). Each commentator is responsible to their target (and the law) for their own comments.

However, Miss R., you have defamed my name far too often and for too long I have let it go unanswered.

PLEASE, CEASE AND DESIST PUBLISHING YOUR REPEATED AND ABUSIVE DEFAMATORY COMMENTS AGAINST ME.

You have published innuendos against me on your own site comparing me to Nazis, you have left a comment on another site referring to me as antisemetic and hateful.

I AM A SEMITE. And just because I will not sit back idly while innocent children are slaughtered does not make me someone who hates all Jews. I have repeatedly rejected any such notion and I reject it again. I am NOT responsible for others comments just because I do not censor them. I censor NO ONE'S COMMENTS.

I demand an apology and a retraction on EVERY site that you left your defamatory comments on. I am entitled to publish critical commentary about Israeli policy without having my good name unlawfully dragged through the mud by my so-called "friends."

----

Thor, get a life and a clue.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another one for you all. Genocide - the collective punishment of an entire people, the Palestinians, simply because of who they are.

A Palestinian woman was killed in Gaza on Wednesday when two Israeli missiles veered off target, the military said, and one of them hit a house. It was the latest in a series of strikes that have killed a dozen Palestinian civilians in eight days.

The strike also wounded 13 people in the southern town of Khan Yunis. It came a day after another missile killed three Palestinian children, whose bodies were paraded on Wednesday through the streets of Gaza before they were buried.
---
And, no, you don't get to request from me any "population figures" that you can get on your own with Google. Damn, don't be so lazy.

And, no, you don't get to justify the use of systemic racist terrorism by the Israelis by invoking an assertion that there are 56 'Muslim states', for instance. What goes on in the Maldives may be weird and not to your liking but it's not any kind of threat to Jews anywhere just because it happens to be a 'Muslim state'.

Terrorism is wrong, even when Israeli Jews do it. And let me remind all that if you are an Israeli Arab that you do NOT get to be a member of the Israeli military. That also means that Israelis who are NOT Jewish will, BY DESIGN, not get any of the generous benefits that are given to the Israeli Jews, and to them alone, who have done their 2-year obligatory 'service'. The truth is really interesting, isn't it?

Don'tcha even have the ability to feel even a LITTLE sympathy for all those innocent Palestinians who are getting killed, wounded and traumatised EVERY DAY?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Louis says:

I'm an Israeli Zionist, I served in the military, I've seen a lot of what you guys seem to know second or third hand with my eyes, and I'd like to add my perpective.
1. someone wrote here that alla blessed palestine so they can stand to israel and not be destroyed. True. We don't want to destroy the palestineans, for the vast majority of us it's unthinkable, although there are some mihty thors among us.
2. thor... what can I say... you should go wash your mouth. I sincerely hope you are under 12.
3. the holocaust has nothing to do with the war that is waged between us and the palestineans. We are two people fighting over a land each believes is justly theirs. It's really easy to determine from thousands of miles away who is right, but on the ground it's not as clear. In fact it's so complicated that neither side knows what are his real long term objectives (e.g. the Hamas claims that it wants to destroy Israel, but acknowledges that the palestinean economy can't sustain itself without work for palestineans in the Israeli market).
4. The Israeli army doesn't kill palestinean civilians and kids for the sake of killing. Palestineans paramilitaries operate in very dense civilian population, fire rockets from peoples back yard, at civilians in Israel, stating openly that their objective is to raise the Israeli death toll. When they are targeted and killed, accidents happen, and civilians get hurt. No one celebrates those deaths here. We don't mark it up on the wall, and nothing is more terrible than a dead kid. But if someone shoots me, I shoot back. If someone sets up a rocket launcher aimed at my school (I'm a teacher) I don't care if he's wearing civilian clothes, he will be killed. Take me to court later, my kids will live.
5. 9-11. I don't know all the theories and I'm sure the subject will be debated for years (at least if Michael Rivero has anything to do with it), but I knew personally one of the "5 dancing mossad agents", and he was as far away from an agent as can be. He was a pro palestinean, anti globilization and human rights activist, and the reason, I imagine, why they were so happy was that it was such a blow to cpitalist America. Ironically enough, he came to the US to work, I guess anarchists need to eat too.
6. Michael Rivero is an anti-semite, not because he critisizes the Israeli government, I critisize our government all the time, and usually for the same reasons he does, he just hates jews. Not all, he might like some, but as a rule he "greatly mistrusts" us. Who knows, we might be "Zionists".
8. BTW Michael is always bitching about the price of gas at the pump and how all the cheap gas goes to Israel. we pay $5.5 a gallon ($1.5 a liter) and the average wage here is around $18500 a year which means most of us earn less. But hey, why not spread it a little thick. A good tag line is better than telling the truth.
8. A Zionist is a person who believes that "Zion" aka Israel is the homeland of the jewish people. Not someone who wants to rule the world and bring the reign of satan.

anyways if any of you want to know anything in particular, feel free to post me. I'll even try to answer the hate mail

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Genocide - the collective punishment of an entire people, the Palestinians, simply because of who they are."

Wrong.

Try again.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: Sympathy, yes I do feel sympathy for the innocents who are killed in this conflict. The cause of their troubles is not Israel.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Genocide is mass murder. I know that the population of Palestinians is rising not falling - you need to do that google search and also look up "genocide" in the dictionary before you ever make that accusation again.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck me annonymous 8:46:52. You are an idiot.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You wrote; "There are Arab Muslims who are represented in government and are even in the Supreme Court."
---
So, you don't deny that there are two classes of citizenship - 1st class for Jews and 2nd class for anyone else. That is what honest people call APARTHEID and it is RACIST. Yes, there are token numbers of non-Jewish 2nd-class Israelis in the government there but the Israeli government's systemic institutionalized racism against Israeli non-Jews is well documented by both the Human Rights Watch organization and even the US State Department. For help on this, just type Israeli-Arab into google and you'll find plenty of facts and information about this. There is simply no denying it and nothing you can assert that can disprove it. It's historical fact and it's contemporary reality.

We just want the Israeli terrorist government to stop waging its campaign of terror against the Palestinian people. Sixty years is enough. Why don't you join the call to stop firing missiles into the Palestinian city of Gaza! Why would you not join in this call? Is it because you APPROVE of it that you will not join in condemning it?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

The magic number is 110 - if it gets there while I am available to close it - will be the last comment to this post.

It's an arbitrary number so that no one complains that I cut it short without giving one side or another adequate opportunity to rebut. You can always reply by reference on another post.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So, you don't deny that there are two classes of citizenship - 1st class for Jews and 2nd class for anyone else."

Where did you get that from exactly?

There are not two citizenship classes. Get with reality. I said quite clearly that all citizens of Israel are just that, citizens of Israel.

And have the ability to become anything even sit on the Supreme Court, regardless of religion etc. Do you know what an encyclopedia is? Use one.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Human Rights Watch"

LMAO - I needed a laugh.

Do you know who they actually are?

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Supreme_Court

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Qrswave Is Spoilsport
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

Qrswave, u really know how to spoil an antisemite's fun. Hey, I didn't know "Miss R" had a website (Kikes R us.com?).

If I were u, I wouldn't worry; Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com likes u--not dumbass Jew like "Miss R."

And u, qrswave, have demonstrated outstanding blogging-journalistic success as I pt out, above. "Name-calling" is mere smoke upon the battlefield of information, discussion, and debate, the product of vigorous dialectic. Seriously, qrswave, "Miss R" is quite brilliant for our purposes; u should thank heaven she has chutzpah to post her dumb statements--they're provocative in productive way and most of all, TYPICAL OF JEW PSYCHOTICS. Let these Jew pukes talk all they pls; they're instructive for our partisans.

"Defamation" won't fly against "Miss R" as it fails for element of publication to significant opinion.

Meantime I'll attempt to try to endeavor getting a "life and a clue," but I can't guarantee success, u know. Keep up ur good work blogging. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous c said...

What many have failed to address, is the fact that any and all anti-zionist authors and journalists get terrorized by Jewish JDL/ADL groups and groupies on a regular basis. I'm talking about serious, reported, terrorist death threats. While I am disappointed by ignorant people like Thor, I have done a ton of research on Israel. Did you know that 5 of Israel's prime ministers were terrorists and murderers themselves? Sharon, Peres, Begin, Ben-Guiron, etc. Now what kind of country installs mass murdering terrorists as the head of state? That is seriously messed up.

I strongly suggest both pro and anti zionists read Israel Shamir. He is jew that knows his history and is an excellent writer.

www.israelshamir.net

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those of you who are too lazy to use Google to gather background facts which explain why Israel is an Apartheid State I'll do your work for you...
---
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8695

I don't offer this with the hope that hard core Zionists have any use for it but instead I offer it for those who honestly want to understand yet another piece to the puzzle of how a state can engage in terrorism against a population in a modern-day campaign of genocide.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Actually, defamation does not fail. Miss R. routinely expresses not only a negative opinion of me, but also bases it on allegations of "facts" that she claims supports it. Then she links all of this to my professional career by identifying me to everyone who knows which law school she attended as having graduated from the same school. This tends to defame my reputation and harm my career.

I take this seriously, Miss R., and I will not stand for it. I know you are reading this and I demand an apology and a retraction of the offending comments.

I changed my mind about 110. You people are too fast for me. I will close the comments at 12 midnight, at whatever number it lands.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Heresy: Key To Culture, History
(Mighty Thor, 21 Jun 06)

Well qrswave, look at it this way--all the judges in any possible defamation suit are likely to be Jews or gentile suckalongs; IN FACT, IT IS GUARANTEED, since yrs ago. No matter, it will cost u millions, if not billions. With Jews, u pay. Hey.

So u see qrswave, we're populations within empire, like the Roman, captives to Judeo-Oligarchic powers, to significant extent, these powers now practicing ultimate monopoly based on such as US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) featuring further present Orwellian "perp. war."

So u might make most of success; put shystering on back-burner; become journalist, sell info, analysis. "Miss R" is so jealous. Antisemitism is compliment. Seriously, don't doubt.

Good journalists encourage the public's inductive logic, observing accuracy, science, and honesty too, actually.

Key is to see beneath Judaism-Talmudism which is SUBJECTIVISM, common also with Jews' co-conspirators-collaborators among gentiles.

(1) Thus Jews operate behind a Mammonistic, complex of heresies (delusions and fallacies) suffered by the people, victims to thought control.

(2) Jews are so successful they actually have legions of so-called "Christians" (but actually "Judeo-Christians" pretending to non-antisemitical heresy--JCs--see Whtt.org) who slaver to cooperate and enable Jews of Israel, for example, and it is pervasive as I've found first hand (unfortunately).

But note these heresies (for there is veritable heresy-complex exploited by Jews and co-conspirators) are subject to logical analysis.

Thus we calculate the Spenglerian "Decline of the West," as heresies multiplied and took root, as Pelagianism then did upon the mind of Adolf Hitler perhaps.

CONCLUSION: Thus theology is built upon history, as history is so much built of journalism too. See Michael Collins Piper's "High Priests Of War" for neatest conspiracy theory of Jew "neo-cons." Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

qrswave,

I just now have written a post on my blog, which I am writing here.

I have an open invitation to qrswave. I have stated that I believe she latently hates Jews, despite the fact that we are friends from law school, because of her website on which she asserts Israel is behind 9/11, Mossad planted most suicide bombs within Israel, and her very one sided critique of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, blaming Israel for literally any and everything that has happened, and never once, not ONCE, saying that the Palestinians may share some of the blame. She also believed that the Danish cartoons should be censored, and yet allows comments on her site which call for death to all Jews. She always says "I do not hate Jews" whenever she says such things, however, in my opinion, such a deep paranoia of ISRAEL IN PARTICULAR (the one Jewish state in the world), has to be based on at least latent hatred of the Jews.

So here is my challenge to qrswave. I will issue a very public apology on my site and on your site if you are capable of saying even one (substantial) good thing that Israel has done, and one (substantial) bad thing the Palestinians have done. Name ONE THING for both sides, and do so publicly on your blog, and I will take back what I have said.

That is my pledge. If you can do that, I will take back all I have said in the past about you being at least latently hateful of Jews. I will issue an apology. But you have to say something SUBSTANTIAL, and not just "Israelis eat falafel, which is yummy."

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

qrswave,

For the record, I have never once stated which law school I attend on my own blog or anywhere. I also only will identify you as "qrswave."

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

By golly, this is so exciting; it threatens to be endless philosophic argument with endless patronizing by Jew, "Miss R." Of course I'm prejudiced, I admit.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

I do have one more thing to say, qrswave,

Whatever you believe privately is almost irrelevant. The point is that you publicly, on numerous occasions, have stated that you believe Israel was most likely behind 9/11, and worked with the Bush administration on this. You publicly stated that we are at war in Iraq because of Israel. You have publicly stated what you have stated about Israel.

You may be privately wonderful to Jews - in fact, I would say you are. But you publicly are spreading an ideology for the world to see. There's a reason that people like Mighty Thor flock to your site.

Hell, he can tell you better than I why he comes to this site.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Miss R,

I am not obligated to provide good press coverage for Israel. I am not a PR company. I report and comment on events as they are reported in the mainstream media that I find particularly disturbing because innocent people are killed unnecessarily and unjustifiably.

I question who perpetrates attacks against Israeli civilians (attacks which I find equally horrific as those against Palestinians) when those attacks are made under questionable circumstances - I'm entitled to question.

Questioning does not make me "anti-semitic." That's an absurd charge. That's like calling someone anti-American for questioning Bush's policies, or the efforts of the FBI or CIA to spy on American citizens. It's defamatory and divisive.

I have nothing against Jews. I have plenty against Israeli policy as well as the policies of Bush and Co. and I am unapologetic. When I see genuine reform in Israeli policy, some end to the disproportionate killing of women and children and the endless land grabs, my opinions will change accordingly.

And for the record, you and I both know that there are people, who know you personally, that know which school you attended and by extension which school I attended.

Also, I never once suggested that any Danish cartoons be censored, i.e., by the government. I repeatedly called for people to exercise their OWN good judgment when referring to others' religious beliefs. I maintain that position. So, you should restate your criticism to reflect the facts.

Finally, when I question Israeli involvement in 9/11, that's all it is - QUESTIONS - suspicions based on undeniable facts that RAISE questions. What am I to do? Ignore them to be politically correct? Give me a break.

Why do you care if an Israeli or a group of Israelis are involved in 9/11 anyway? Does that make you culpable by extension because you are Jewish? Absurd! You have to understand that it is YOU who are making these illogical conclusions along with other misguided individuals like Thor. I should not have to apologize for your inability to reason.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Anonymous Mighty Thor said...

Indeed, I was suckered into by dasterdly Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com; lynch him too for complicity. Thou art found guilty of antisemitism by declaration--we already know that's the only thing "Miss R" can do. Antisemitism is obedience to God. I say qrswave should demand objective reality as criterion, and "Miss R" is cooked. Of course "Miss R" prefers to entertain her own crowd of madness. For objectivity "Miss R" has lost; she is constitutionally incapable, so infused is she with her pathologic and Talmudistic religion of SUBJECTIVISM. But then I wouldn't want to prejudice things, too much. Thor

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

qrswave,

So you insist that Israel has done not one good policy, and the Palestinians are fully justified in their actions?

Okay, just wanted to be clear.

And yes, questioning American policy does not make someone "unAmerican." But engaging in conspiracy theory speculation, which you do and have done quite publicly, is quite a different story. Whenever anything happens in Israel, you question if Mossad might be responsible. Same for major American events, such as 9/11. In many ways, that is WORSE than stating outright "Israel was behind 9/11," because when someone does that, such as Mighty Thor, they are more easily branded a hater. You cloak your words in the nonsense of "I am only questioning things," when in fact no sane person would believe Israel was behind 9/11 or Mossad plants suicide bombers.

I will retract what I said about the Danish cartoons on my blog, but that is it. It is interesting, of course, that you believe there should have been self censorship with respect to the Danish cartoons, but you fully allow people to post that they wish death to all Jews. (without deleting comments)

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

One more thing. I do care about Israel. I have relatives in Israel, and I care about the continuation of Israel as a Jew and as someone who values freedom and justice.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

I posted an apology re: the Danish toons on my site.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

One last thing for real.

If you hope to be the truth shall set you free, then you in fact DO owe it to your readers to post FACTS and not propoganda.

When you post "speculation" that Israel is behind 9/11, Mossad is behind suicide bombing attacks, and say on this very thread that Israel kills without thinking, you cannot hide behind the "I am not Israel's PR machine" comment.

If you purport to TRUTH (and the word TRUTH is in the title of this site), then you owe it to your readers to actually post...TRUTH.

You cannot hide behind the "I am not Israel's PR machine" statement and also call yourself "The Truth Shall Set You Free."

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Miss R said: "So you insist that Israel has done not one good policy, and the Palestinians are fully justified in their actions?"

Don't put words in my mouth. I neither said nor implied that. But, it is true that Israel bears the brunt of the blame for the tortuous path of this conflict. They could simply end the occupation of the West Bank.

You also said . . .

"In many ways, that is WORSE than stating outright "Israel was behind 9/11," because when someone does that, such as Mighty Thor, they are more easily branded a hater. You cloak your words in the nonsense of "I am only questioning things," when in fact no sane person would believe Israel was behind 9/11 or Mossad plants suicide bombers."

Now, you suggest that I am insane and you want to brand me as a "hater"? Amazing.

If you don't like my blog, don't visit it. But, stop publishing defamatory statements against me on this blog, on your blog and on any other blog.

Re: malicious religious insults, I said SELF-restraint, not THIRD-PARTY restraint. People are free to say what they want but should respect eachother's rights to peaceful co-existence, free from threats and defamation. Otherwise, they should be prepared to suffer the legal and social consequences.

Finally, there is no implied warranty in the title of my blog. The saying is well known and of universal application.

People can believe what they want to believe. I publish the truth as I perceive it. You are free to accept or reject it. I am not obligated to reform it to yours or another's liking.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

I will close the comments section in 10 minutes, as promised above. This is for practical purposes only. The post has gotten too long.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Erosoplier said...

What amazes me about Miss R is that she, an American, is only concerned with how Israel looks in all this. Never mind that thieves control the US money system. Never mind that those f-ing buildings didn't fall down on their own - never mind that someone obviously blew them up.

Just take care you don't blame Israel.

 
At Wednesday, June 21, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

qrswave:

You stated you "Are not Israel's PR" and refused to state a single good policy Israel has ever done. I would have to infer from that the reason you stated that is you do not believe they have done a single good policy.

As far as the 9/11 and Mossad stuff. I am not a psychologist. But if you ask anyone on the street what they would think of someone who believes Israel is behind 9/11 or Mossad behind the suicide bombing attacks in Israel...it is obvious what they would say.

Re: others posting hate on your blog. You have the power to delete comments if you wish. Of course you are not responsible for the comments others have said, but you decide to provide a forum for the hate, and thus, your blog will inevitably be associated with that. Your comments, throughout the history of your blog, show you to ignore it when someone like Thor says what he says, and yet you respond if someone disagrees with your perspective. That alone speaks volumes.

There is no implied warranty on the title of the blog, but all I am saying is you are deluding yourself if you believe the title is in any way truthful.

 
At Thursday, June 22, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

Eros,

I am not worried that America will cease to exist because people spread hate against America on this site or others.

But yes, I am worried about Israel's continued existence. And I have reason to be worried.

I also am concerned about the monetary system, but do not believe in the same conspiracy theories about it that you and qrswave believe in.

 
At Thursday, June 22, 2006, Blogger Red Tulips said...

I want to finally note that this is my final post on qrswave's blog. I realize there is no way I can change her mind on things, despite repeated attempts in the past, and if she will post her one sides posts abotu Israel, such is life.

 
At Thursday, June 22, 2006, Blogger Erosoplier said...

My copy of The Money Masters literally just landed on my doorstep.

 

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