Israel pounds Beirut, Hizbullah DENIES Haifa attack
While Israel continues to destroy Lebanon, this crucial denial by Hizbullah was buried towards the end of the news report.
Olmert had ordered the army to intensify the offensive after a barrage of rockets hit towns in northern Israel, including the Mediterranean port city of Haifa, killing two people.If they didn't do it, then I'll give you three guesses to name WHO did.* * *
Hezbollah, which has threatened to avenge the "massacres" of Lebanese by Israel, DENIED however that it was involved the Haifa attack.
Meanwhile, based on this pretext Israelis play 'bombs away' in Beirut.
In a wave of strikes Friday, Israeli jets hit an airport hangar and fuel tanks, pounded Hezbollah's command headquarters in the Shiite-dominated southern suburbs of Beirut and a Palestinian guerrilla base in eastern Lebanon, as well as bridges and roads.A round of applause for Chirac for declaring the obvious.
Police said five people were killed on Friday, bringing to 62 the death toll in Lebanon since Israel unleashed what the military has called "Operation Just Reward."* * *
President Jacques Chirac of France, the former colonial power in Lebanon, said Israel appeared to "wish to destroy" Lebanon.
posted by qrswave @ Friday, July 14, 2006
25 Comments:
we're surfing the appocalypse qrs. Just keep raising your voice someone's bound to hear you. Wait until the bomb Damascus. Nuclear weapon, middle of the night. Devastation and terror reign.
peace bro
ksdrover
it doesn't seem to stop. the constant madness is almost intolerable.
zionism NEVER made sense. Hate never makes sense it destroys the person that holds it just as surely as it does its intended victim. My heart breaks for these people and I am insulted my the silence of those that call themselves Americans and 'christians'.
ksdrover
First, second and third guesses, Iran! The axis of evil and all that bullshit. Just wait and i hope and pray that I'm wrong, but this scenario is all too predictable.
I admire you for your coverage of this, qrswave, but as for me, I am getting tired of blogging about it. But it needs to be done, i guess, even though studies show that around 30% of Americans are fucking morons.
http://undeniableliberalism.blogspot.com/2006/07/new-bush-approval-rating.html
Just something for you to consider. If you go back to the assassination of Rafiq Hariri you can see how Israel was maneuvering to have the Syrians removed from Lebanon in preparation for their attacks.
They then assassinate a Palestinian police chief, bomb the Gaza beach and 'claim' the kidnap of an IDF soldier and viola! instant aggression in less than 30 minutes.
I'm sure there are additional pieces to the puzzle those are just a couple that stand out right now.
ksdrover
They didn't really destroyed the airport, but maid it impossible to arrive-deport from there. They try to weaken Hezbollah and finally to force Lebanon to disarm them by themselves.
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medvegonok said...
They didn't really destroyed the airport, but maid it impossible to arrive-deport from there. They try to weaken Hezbollah and finally to force Lebanon to disarm them by themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: THey did destroy it. And are continuing to destroy it. Bombs keep on falling. Now go back to your cave you troll!
Keep this quote in mind, from Martin van Creveld, professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.'
Israel HAS nukes, Iran does not. Unfortunately, if a few nukes hit Europe, people have already been psychologically prepped to automatically blame Iran, even though any such nukes would be launched by Israel. The Israeli-NeoCon-capitalist EndGame is Armageddon, like a spoiled child knocking over the board when he sees he can't win. Or nuking the board.
I'm afraid you're right, Di.
ksd, you're right - the pieces of the puzzle are coming together.
undeniable, I can't tolerate this much longer. I'm tense, nervous, and thoroughly distracted by this madness.
Israel lies too much to trust anything that serves their purposes having come from their opponents.
Lebanon didn't want to be hit like Gaza. Syria didn't want to be hit like Gaza. Iran doesn't want to be hit like Gaza.
The pretext, of course, is that Israel has behaved so abominably that retalition seems warranted: a strange, but excellent cover.
Israel behaves badly to get its opponents to respond. When they don't, Israel attacks itself. Notice the relative lack of loss of life in Israel.
If Israel attacks itself to acquire "justification" for its barbarity, then who do you think really is responsible for the well-timed "suicide" attacks on Israelis.
The forces behind Israel's behavior care not at all for Israel's people. That's not the point.
What, exactly, were the two soldiers doing on the border with Lebanon, assuming those soldiers really exist?
Who was provoking and then attacking whom, and who benefits from these acts?
You can call this masturbation if you like. A weird kind of masochistic/sadistic military masturbation on the part of Israel.
They are just that sick.
And for all of you who call for total destruction of Israel because of the way its ruling powers act, please be aware that by the same logic, we in this country deserve no less.
The rich white male corporate terrorists are coming for all of us. We must stop them before it is too late.
And for all of you who call for total destruction of Israel because of the way its ruling powers act, please be aware that by the same logic, we in this country deserve no less.
You're right. Massive loss of life should never be the goal.
Ideally, the defanging of the state of Israel would come by peaceful means, such as eliminating its financing.
But, with the kind of insane provocation they engage in regularly, they are bound to get themselves in a situation that no one can extricate them from.
Let's all start really spreading our knowledge about Isreal's actions--email to friends, opinion letters to local newspapers, calls to local news stations, flyers pasted up around town, leaflets left in libraries...
It's an information war. They've got the big guns, but we can be guerrilla forces in this info war.
Israel, like the United States, is run by power-mad neo-con war-mongers. It's unfair that the average, innocent American/Israeli has to be involved in this danger due to the actions of their evil governments, but hey, its our job to kick evil governments out if they should arise, and so far neither the U.S. nor Isreal has done that.
The current governments of Israel & the U.S. should both be wiped off of the page of history.
Thanks for the comment on Hizbollah...Israel is clearly using Hiuzbollah as an excuse to wage war witjh Syria as its target.
NOW, this is what stupid Lebanon gets for having Syrian miliary forces removed. They have lost anyu real protection against the mass murdering israelis..zionazism is on the move, defended in the UN by Bolton, the pit bull that looks like a man.
This is not war but state terrorism by Israel. The Palestinians and Lebanese are just helpless targets for Israels' American WMDs. The Romans had it right: Jews are enemies of the human race.
loud-hailer,
Great suggestion to email to friends and very simple to do. When you do so write Forward in the headline so it keeps getting send around.
Israel does not need to be destroyed, but it must be stopped from committing racist hate crimes.
This is a most dangerous time for the world. I remember in the 1960s when my former brother-in-law, a member of the Israeli army, stood in my kitchen and told me that if Israel goes, they will take the world with them. Given the number of nuclear weapons possessed by Israel, I have no doubt that they would do that.
The only way to end the threat of world anihiliation by the Jewish state is for the US and the rest of the world to fimly tell Israel that they must stop their assault on Lebanon,end the vile and brutal occupation of Palestinian lands and make restitution to all those who have been damaged by the creation of the state of Israel. Otherwise, I am deeply afraid that the world faces an even deeper crisis than the one it is now facing.
Sadly, it has been made more than obvious that there are few, if any, in the Western world with the courage to stand up to Israel and to the Israeli lobby.
It isn't hard to see Israels finger prints on a lot of the "damage" in Israel.
Remember the Mossad motto "By Deception, Thou shalt make war"
Notice also how they are trying to shift blame to Iran!!!!
They are the worlds best liers and masters at decption, bar none......
I don't think Israel will make any attacks in Lebanon that will bring high death tolls. As a foreigner who has lived in Lebanon for years, I can tell you they don't need to.
Lebanese politics are the most fractured I have ever seen. Even the locals don't have a clue what happened in their long civil war.
Christian Lebanese (individuals) have been working closely with the pentagons "syria accountability", and others on more genocidial plans with Israel.
Syria was invited to Lebanon, but Israel has been Invited there before too. Local factions are not shy to invite outside parties to help them.
Before the attacks, Lebanon had a souring unemployment level, and lots of locals are just dying for a confrontation. The old militia leaders are returning, and the arms hidden since the civil war are probably being dug out as I post this message.
Civil war will soon erupt. The other source for high death tolls will come from the lack of infrastructure and the port blocade. In Iraq, the humanitarian sanctions killed at least 10 times as many people as the current fighting.
The middle/owning classes do not want war, but they are a minority.
wow, anon Sat Jul 15, 12:11:15 AM EDT,
That is bad news!
1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Koranimals don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity - making the desert bloom - while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces?
2. Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan?
3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria?
4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?
5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use?
6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan?
7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave” Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?
8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestinians”? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinian”?
9. Why do you not exhibit the same level of concern for say, people in Saudi Arabia who are beheaded, subject to amputation, stoning, honor killing etc.? What about women who are denied any semblance of basic civil rights, including the right not to be treated as property for the entertainment and abuse of her father, brothers, or husbands? What about the Muslims in Sudan and Egypt who are still enslaved, or the women there whose genitalia are barbarically cut off? How about the oppression of Shiites by Sunnis, the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq, or the massacre of “Palestinians” by Jordan (Black September)? Why doesn’t this concern you?
10. Did you ever stop to wonder how much better off everyone in the region would be if Arabs stopped trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel? What would happen if the Israelis gave up their weapons and disarmed? Would they live to see the next day? But what would happen if the Arabs completely disarmed? You know the answer: They would all be AT PEACE! And if there is no war to rile them up, the Arabs would be forced to look at their own repressive, pre-medieval societies. Why would they want to do that when there are Jews to kill?
11. Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and misery”? Can you see the parallels to the Arabs, who are blessed with land and oil, but still gladly train their children to kill themselves in order to kill Jews? Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours”? Why do the Arabs hate so much?
What, exactly, were the two soldiers doing on the border with Lebanon, assuming those soldiers really exist?
Erm ... guarding their country's border, possibly?
Btw if Hezbollah really didn't hit Haifa, as some people here seriously seem to believe, then it's not for want of will:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3275792,00.html
The Hezbollah leader repeated a threat to hit the Israeli coastal city of Haifa and other towns farther south. "We will reach Haifa, and believe me, even beyond Haifa."
"Our homes will not be the only ones to be destroyed, our children will not be the only ones to die," Nasrallah added.
"Sat Jul 15, 09:02:57 AM EDT, Anonymous said..."
Not only 'Orthodox Jews' but anyone that has a grasp of what zionism REALLY is.
Why Orthodox Jews are opposed to the Zionist "State"
First some introductions;
1) What is "The people of Israel" ?
The people of Israel have existed for thousands of years.
It has its own particular, essential, nature.
The Torah is the source of its essential nature.
Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.
Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the people of Israel.
The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine service.
Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.
2) What is Zionism?
Zionism is a relatively new thing.
It has only existed for a century.
Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the people of Israel, and substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character - a materialistic worldly nation.
Their misfortune is lack of what other nations have. i.e. a state and army.
Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.
This is clearly spelled out in the circles of Zionist though, and among the leaders of the Zionist state, that through changing the nature and character of the people of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set before the People of Israel "their salvation" -- a state and an army.
The People of Israel oppose the so-called "State of Israel" for four reasons:
FIRST -- Because this is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the people of Israel, as is explained above. Because the only time that the people of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us. And likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him. Then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic "salvation." And the means of achieving this "salvation" is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator And this is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.
SECOND -- Because of all of this and other reason's the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah. Because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. And transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.
THIRD Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel, is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.
FOURTH -- Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.
The Zionists claim that they are the saviors of Israel, but this is refuted by twelve things:
FIRST -- If one contemplates the two thousand years of our exile, take any hundred years even the hardest, one will not find as much suffering, bloodshed, and catastrophes for the People of Israel s in the period of the Zionists. And it is known that most of the suffering of this century was caused by the Zionists, as our Rabbis warned us would be the case.
SECOND -- It is openly stated in books written by the founders of Zionism that the means by which they panned to establish a state was by instigating anti-Semitism, and undermining the security of the Jews in all the lands of the world, until they would be forced to flee to their state. And thus they did - They intentionally infuriated the German people and fanned the flames of Nazi hatred, and they helped the Nazis, with trickery and deceit, to take whole Jewish communities off to the concentration camps, and the Zionists themselves admit this. (See the books Perfidy, Min Ha Meitsor, etc.). The Zionists continue to practice this strategy today ,they incite anti-Semitism and then they present themselves as the "saviors". Here are two replies given y Leaders of the Zionists during World War II, when they were asked for money to help ransom Jews from the Nazis. Greenbaum said "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland." (G-d forbid).
Weitzman said, The most important part of the Jewish people is already in the land (of Israel) and those who are left, are unimportant (May we be spared).
THIRD -- We see that most of world Jewry, Lives in security and under good physical conditions, and have no desire to go live in the Zionist state. Whereas many people have left the Zionist state to live under better conditions in other lands.
FOURTH -- The Zionists make a great deal of propaganda to induce people to immigrate to their state. If their state is so beneficial why do they have to make so much propaganda.
FIFTH -- Because nobody wants the Zionists to "save" them. The only way they can get immigrants is by promising poor people material benefits. And even then very few people respond.
SIXTH -- The Zionists State is always threatened by the dangers of war. Whereas the rest of world Jewry lives in peace and security, (Except in a few places where the Zionists have undermined their security and fanned the flames of hatred)
SEVENTH -- The Zionists state could not continue to exist without economic support from Jews living outside of the Zionist state.
EIGHTH -- The Zionist state is on the verge of economic collapse, and their money is nearly worthless.
NINTH -- The Zionists state persecute all Jews who are loyal to their faith.
TENTH -- They start wars that endanger the Jewish People, for the sake of their own political interests.
ELEVENTH - According to the Torah the path of safety is following ways of peace not starting fights with other nations, as the Zionists do.
TWELFTH -- Even if the Zionists could and would provide physical security it would be at the expense of our Faith and Our Torah. And the true People of Israel prefer death rather than life at such a cost.
It is therefore clear that Zionism is not the savior of the people of Israel. Rather it is their greatest misfortune.
Even though there are some observant Jews and rabbis, who approve of the Zionists, this is not the opinion of the Torah.
The Zionists have enough control over the American news media to make sure that only their side of the story is heard.
They make it look like all Jewry and their rabbis are Zionists, but this is false propaganda.
The most important Rabbis and the majority of religious Jewry are opposed to Zionism, but their voice is not heard because of Zionist control of American news media.
The Zionist terrorize everyone who speaks out against them.
That part of the Jewish masses which is fooled by Zionist propaganda puts pressure on their Rabbis not to speak out.
Between the terror and the pressure of the masses most of the Rabbis are prevented from speaking out.
We bring three testimonies of the true opinion of the Torah.
1) In the past two thousand years of the dangers and sufferings of exile not once did any of the Sages of Israel suggest that we make a state to protect ourselves. And in every generation we had thousands of Sages well versed in the Torah.
2) We have thousands of legal work of Torah law that have been handed down to us by the Sages of all generations. Not once do we see a word suggesting the establishment of a state. What we do find is warnings against it.
3) The founders of Zionism were all atheists who denied the Torah. And all the Torah Sages of that time opposed them and opposed Zionism, saying that Zionism would lead only to destruction.
However the true People of Israel will never change their nature or give up their faith because of the strength the Creator gives them.
Zionism is a foreign growth in the body of the Jewish People. The end will be that it will rid itself of this foreign growth and remain pure.
Zionism has overcome the Jewish people by force. With fraud and terror, but none of this will help them because the truth will always remain with the help of the Creator.
Zionism will not replace the Jewish People. The Jewish People will remain strong in their faith and the Zionist state will cease to exist.
It is therefore, our demand that the State that calls itself ISRAEL, should cease to exist. Since this won't be done, we demand that they cease to call themselves "Israel", because their entire being is in complete opposition to the true People of Israel. The true People of Israel deny them permission to call themselves by that name. The Zionist leaders have no right to set themselves up as the representatives and spokesmen of the true People of ISRAEL.
Since we know they will not fulfill this demand either we feel that at least we cry out the truth. And the truth will always remain the truth, by no means or force can the truth be changed. Even if all the world would say that one and one are three, the truth will remain that one and one is two.
Let the truth be declared. The use of the Name "ISRAEL" by that state is a complete falsification. The People of Israel have nothing to do with that state. Zionism and its state have no share and no part in the true ISRAEL.
ksdrover
Am very much looking forward to having my tax dollars left intact after Israel is finally destroyed.
Israel is a beggar pariah nation that must die.
No more lies from those obvious zionists in here will be read because the bogus principles blabbered forth are so phony as to be utterly ridiculous, such as a zionist stating that Arabs live in feces. Obviously, that zionist's entire brain is composed of feces.
Hizballah did not bomb Haifa on July 14. However, they admit they bombed it many time after that date. It is still unkown who actually attacked Haifa on the 14th. Also, the two soldiers captured by Hizballah on July 12 were inside Lebanese territory at the time of their capture. Hizballah did not cross into Israel to kidnap the troops. Soldiers were abducted from a village of Aita al Shab which is in Ganbat, Lebanon. They were part of an platoon conducting a surveillance mission in Lebanon. President Bush falsely blamed Hizballah of crossing the border and taking the Israeli soldiers from Israeli soil.
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