9/11 - don't believe it? You're not alone
One by one, hundreds of prominent Americans - in this case, Robert D. Steele - are no longer able to deny what has been so painfully obvious to so many millions of us, for so long.
Of course, this guy is heavily connected with intelligence agencies - so, there's a good likelihood that this somehow furthers another, undeclared agenda.It is with great sadness that I conclude that this book is the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon, almost all non-fiction. I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war (see my review of Jim Bamford's "Pretext for War"), and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative neo-Nazi coup d'etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations (see my review of "Crossing the Rubicon" as well as "State of Denial"). Most fascinatingly, the author links Samuel Huntington, author of "Clash of Civilizations" with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between Nazi fascists and the neo-cons.
This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism.
The author draws on historical examples of US fabrication of threats (e.g. the bombing of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor) and many others (Jim Bamford publicized Operation Northwoods). It is an undeniable fact that the U.S. Government has been willing to kill its own citizens and fabricate attacks as part of moving the public.
The author suggests that there is no conclusive evidence that 9/11 was of foreign origin, and to the contrary, quite a bit of evidence that the hijackers had been trained at US military bases, protected by the CIA and FBI, and that the end result of their actions--including controlled flying into buildings and controlled demolitions bringing down three towers, one of which was not hit at all, all suggest a US-based conspiracy.
The author is compelling in his review of the conflicts of interest for each of the 9/11 Commissioners and key staff; he is conclusive in his damnation of their performance and their refusal to be tough with NORAD, the FAA, and many other Executive organizations that refused to cooperate; and he is conclusive on his suggestion that all actual evidence points to the Pentagon being hit by a missile rather than an airplane. [?]
The author is especially compelling in condemning Rudy Guilliani as part of the conspiracy, and as the "bud" of the extreme right charged with cleaning up the crime scene. Instead of making the area off-limits, Gulliani moved aggressively to "scoop and dump" to the point that firefighters rioted.
I sit here, a 54-year old, liberally educated, two graduate degrees, war college, a life overseas, 150 IQ or so, the number #1 Amazon reviewer for non-fiction, a former Marine Corps infantry officer, a former CIA clandestine case officer, founder of the Marine Corps Intelligence Center, and I have to tell anyone who cares to read this: I believe it.I believe it enough to want a full investigation that passes the smell test of the 9/11 families as well as objective outside observers.
I believe it sufficient to indict Dick Cheney and other neo-cons.
Sadly, the Executive is now in the service of corporations that benefit from high crimes and misdemeanors, rather than in the service of the American people who suffer great ill from these terrible mis-deeds.
My bottom line: justice has NOT been done, and this book, together with Crossing the Rubicon, is a major reason why I believe that eventually, Dick Cheney and others will be brought to justice. The people now have a digital memory and collective intelligence.
Bin Laden Dead or Alive?
Mission Accomplished?
Civil liberties at home, democracy abroad?
Just who are we kidding?
More to the point, who are we betraying if not ourselves?
Nevertheless, it's an important indication that - for whatever reason - this whole thing is about to blow.
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Thanks, bruce1337
posted by qrswave @ Friday, October 20, 2006
12 Comments:
The big question is will the Sheeple belive it. most likely not they are to busy spending their HELOC on Tv's and cars.
I'm not a machine!
one day, I'm sure, I'll prove it.
Yes, I agree that the truth about 9/11 is welcomed, no matter who tries to benefit from it.
borkafatty! you're back! :D nice logo!
New human remains found today...
daniel, yes - I heard.
Human remains aren't the only thing that's still buried at that site - so is the TRUTH.
quasi, ISRAEL.
Always lurking qrswave good to see you m8.
This is my latest compilation of evidence of who did it and how. I will be adding some other points in subsequent revisions, such as how Larry Silverstein's team's own study concluded that the temperatures in the WTC fires were only about 400 C to 700 C...
(1) Verifiable empirical fact: There are many corroborating sources that reported molten steel in the ruins of the World Trade Center. Another excellent summary of reports, ranging from "cherry red steel" (about 745 degrees C) at a depth of six stories underground that was found six weeks after the attacks, to a steel beam "dripping with the molten steel" to "streams" and "rivers" of molten steel, may be found here at the George Washington blog. The latter includes a link to a New York Times archived article (pay-per-view) stating that Dr. Jonathan Barnett, a professor of fire protection engineering, said that an uncontrollable fire could not explain steel members in the WTC 7 debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures. Mark Loizeaux of Controlled Demolition, Inc. of Phoenix, MD., who was involved in the removal of the rubble, was reported as saying that molten steel was found at the basement levels in the ruins of World Trade Center buildings 1, 2 and 7. This was confirmed by journalist William Langewiesche who personally witnessed areas where "steel flowed in molten streams" after "descending deep below street level" (subscribers only link here, but see above George Washington blog for the quotes). As late as February 2002, Bronx firefighter Joe "Toolie" O'Toole saw a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. "It was dripping from the molten steel," he said. Some molten material would have been aluminum, but analysis confirmed significant quantities of iron. Since the existence of molten steel or iron cannot be denied, NIST has even made a (failed) attempt to address the matter in its recently released "FAQ"- scroll down to #13 at this link. Molten steel or iron was also observed pouring from the side of WTC 2 in the minutes prior to its collapse [see pp. 10-16 in the paper at this link].
(2) Consequence of the laws of physics: At most, the mass of steel that could be melted by a hydrocarbon-fuelled office compartment fire would be on the order of lengths of fine steel wire. A stoichiometric combustion of kerosene, generally regarded as dodecane, for example...
C12H26 + 18.5O2 +69.595N2 ===> 12CO2 + 13H2O + 69.595N2 + 7518 kJ
...would have at best the above 7,518 kJ locked into 2.712 kg of combustion products to yield an adiabatic flame temperature (AFT) of some 2,398 K or 2,125 C (it is about 130 K less after including the inevitable endothermic dissociation reactions at these temperatures in order to reach an equilibrium state). At standard temperature and pressure, one mole of an ideal gas occupies 22.4 liters; at 2,398 K the volume would have expanded by a factor of 2398/273, i.e. nearly 9 times, to 196.8 liters/mol. The 7.518 MJ is spread amongst 94.595 moles or 18.62 cubic meters of hot gaseous products. At some 0.146 kg/m^3, these are much lighter than air at STP. In order to melt a mere 1 kg of steel that would take up a volume of only 0.127 liters, at least 1 MJ would be required. If 1/7.518 of the enthalpy (heat) in the products was directed at the kilogram of steel, the temperature rise would be reduced from 2,105 K to a little above 1,825 K which would result in a temperature of a little over 1,845 C and still potentially hot enough to melt some steel. But in real-world conditions, flame and upper layer hot gas temperatures are well below the AFT, typically barely reaching 1,000 C and certainly well below the melting point of steel. Heat radiates out in all directions, and would not be concentrated just at some particular 0.127 liter lump of steel. And the jet fuel fires in the WTC would have burnt out within a few minutes. The remaining combustible office material would have released lower quantities of heat per unit of fuel, and with lower AFTs, flame temperatures would have been lower for a given proportion of heat losses. Moreover, the oxygen-starved fuel-rich environment of the compartment fire would have reduced the temperature increase and the heat yielded per unit of fuel by a factor of about one-third. In the rubble, low air exchange rates would lead to low mass burning rates, poor combustion efficiency and low power output. A few smoldering pieces of wood could not create temperatures capable of melting steel.
If it were possible for hydrocarbon fires to melt significant quantities of steel, then burnt-out cars would regularly be observed consisting primarily of solidified pools of molten steel on the ground, and kerosene heaters would be about as useful as a chocolate teapot!
As for the kinetic energy available from the massive collapse, this is given by:
KE = 0.5*m*v^2
...and if all of this was converted to heat and remained within the material, the temperature increase is given by:
T2 - T1 = 0.5*m*v^2 / (c*m) = 0.5*v^2 / c
where c is the specific heat of the material.
The masses cancel, with the temperature increase determined merely by the velocity and the specific heat. At 200 mph = 89.4 m/s, and taking c for steel as 450 J/kg.K, the increase in temperature is:
0.5 * 89.4^2 / 450 = 8.88 degrees K. (The concrete would be cooler; its specific heat is nearly twice that of steel.)
400,000 tonnes distributed over an area of more than 4,000 square meters averages less than 100 tonnes per square meter. There would not be spots that were so much hotter than the mean that rivers of molten steel were formed. If a couple of trucks collided head-on, tens of tons of mass would be distributed over a cross-section of a few square meters and - in contrast to the WTC collapse - the impact would be very sharply concentrated over tens of milliseconds, yet the steel would not melt as in a scene from a Terminator movie. And a 200 mph terminal velocity corresponds to faster than free-fall speed, which itself would be evidence of controlled demolition.
As for the idea that molten aluminum from a plane might have reacted with water from fire hoses and produced an exothermic reaction and just might have transferred all this heat to steel in the rubble, this theory is not only inapplicable to WTC 7, but fails to work for the towers. If ten tonnes of aluminum was in the form of a cube of volume 3.7 cubic meters and sides of 1.547 meters, the problem for the official theory is that little of it would melt in the fires, due to the relatively low surface area to mass ratio and the relatively low emissivity of aluminum at around 0.1. Alternatively, suppose this ten tonnes had been smashed into 3,700,000 cubes of length 0.01 meters and volume 1 cc. If they happened to be dispersed without lying on top of each other so as to present the maximum surface area for absorption, they might indeed all melt if the fires were sufficiently severe. But even if surrounded by concrete debris, they would not remain molten for more than a matter of minutes.
(3) Conclusion from (1) and (2): The WTC steel was melted by a type of combustion such as a thermite reaction, as opposed to hydrocarbon fires of office combustibles ignited by jet fuel.
(4) Conclusion from (3): WTC 1, 2 and 7 were subjected to controlled demolitions involving pre-installed charges.
(5) Verifiable empirical facts: Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowy (both Jewish) took over the WTC lease and $3 to $7 billion insurance policies - and made damned sure the policies covered acts of terrorism - a mere six weeks prior to 9/11. Silverstein had close ties to Ariel Sharon, Ehud Barak, and Benjamin Netanyahu (all Israeli Prime Ministers). Netanyahu used to call Silverstein every Sunday afternoon, New York time, without fail. Lewis Eisenberg (Jewish), chairman of the Port Authority, oversaw negotiations which handed the lease to Silverstein and Lowy. Both Eisenberg and Silverstein held leadership positions with the United Jewish Appeal, a billion-dollar Zionist "charity" organization. Larry Silverstein conveniently had a "dermatologist's appointment" on the morning of 9/11 rather than taking his customary breakfast at the Windows on the World restaurant at the top of the North Tower, thereby avoiding the fate of nearly three thousand WTC occupants. Netanyahu is linked to both 9/11 and the London 7/7 bombings. Israeli and Jewish supremacists and fascists have a long history of terrorism and false flag attacks such as the King David hotel (1946), the Lavon Affair (1954), the USS Liberty (1967), Operation Trojan in Tripoli (1986), Oklahoma City (1995), etc. Rabbi Dov Zakheim (Jewish) "lost" - i.e. embezzled - over $2 trillion during his tenure as Comptroller of the Pentagon in the months leading up to 9/11. From 1997 to 2001 he was CEO of a company that made transceivers for the simultaneous remote control of up to eight aircraft, or the remote takeover of planes already in flight. The first arrests within hours of the 9/11 attacks were the five "dancing Israelis", Mossad agents dressed as Arabs who were found with box cutters, $4,700 cash hidden in a sock, foreign passports, a van which tested positive for traces of explosives, and were seen filming and celebrating te attacks with "high fives" and shouts of joy and mockery. These agents were eventually released by Michael Chertoff (Jewish). The Zim American-Israeli Shipping company (Israeli-owned) inexplicably broke its lease to move out of WTC 1 just days before 9/11, having to pay a $50,000 fine as a result. Within a few months of 9/11, it moved back to New York from Pennsylvania. Odigo (Israeli company) and Goldman Sachs (Israeli company) received advance warnings of the 9/11 attacks. Some of the alleged hijackers, who were said to be devout Muslims, were seen on gambling boats belonging to Jack Abramoff (Jewish).
(6) Conclusion from (4) and (5): The evidence shows that Israel and Judeo-fascists orchestrated 9/11, either working under the Rothschild Mafia or as an out-of-control monster created by the House of Rothschild. They did not merely play a central role, they actually did it! The motive included press-ganging the armed services of other nations into fighting wars as Israel's proxy army on a false prospectus. One target was Israel's overt foe Iraq in a war to the value of hundreds of billions of dollars and a cost to the proxy armies of thousands of lives needlessly sacrificed. As Mahathir Mohamad shrewdly observed in an October 2003 speech shortly before retiring as Malaysia's prime minister, Jews rule the world by proxy, and get others to fight and die for them.
(7) Verifiable empirical facts: Jewish leaders regularly describe non-Jews as equivalent to "grasshoppers", "beasts", "crocodiles", etc. The Jewish Talmud, a hate-filled supremacist tract, states that Jews may kill, rob and lie to non-Jews, sanctions paedophilia, and advocates the genocide of non-Jews.
(8) Conclusion from (6) and (7): Israel and Judeo-fascists are not only guilty of 9/11, they are the only group with a sufficiently perverted morality and lack of conscience and empathy for fellow human beings, that would be capable of perpetrating such a cold-blooded act of mass-murder for profit. Governments could not persuade operatives to mass-murder thousands of their compatriots in controlled skyscraper demolitions. The Bush administration's complicity in crashing a UAV into the Pentagon's west wing, together with Israel's Dolphin-class submarines equipped with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles with a 900-mile range, its various spy-rings' gatherings of secrets with which to blackmail politicians and its control of the mainstream media, provided Israel with the necessary leverage that would force the US authorities to cover for Netanyahu / Zakheim's Pentagon embezzlement and Netanyahu / Zakheim / Silverstein's WTC controlled demolition $3+ billion insurance scam and pretext for perpetual war - a "war on terror". The irony of that will not have been lost on Netanyahu, he was the principal architect of the doctrine of a "war on terror" that in reality was the pretext for state-sponsored terrorism for profit. Just because someone was nominally born as a Jew, it does not mean that they necessarily have an "evil gene" and cannot be their own person. Zionist Occupied Governments (ZOGs) assert without evidence that terrorism is carried out by "Islamic extremists" or "Islamo-fascists". The evidence demonstrates that there exists, within Judaism, a fanatical, evil sect of Judeo-fascists, who are the true terrorists. Those appeasers and accessories who deny the crimes of Israel are part of the problem, not the solution. They should be drummed out of the Truth movement forthwith.
Source: www.takeourworldback.com/short/israel.htm
I found a lot of useful information in your post, poseidon.
I disagree only with the unmanned UAV scenario at the Pentagon, because the witness testimony doesn't corroborate.
The witness testimony does support an interconntected explosives-packed flight-termination (remote control) hypothesis for 77 and 93, however.
But nobody wants to know.
Pentagon Witnesses:
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"It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane, or if they do they're hiding it for some reason."
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a gray C-130, which appeared to be a Navy electronic warfare aircraft,
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I personally believe that the government new full well that this was about to happen and they are hiding something a lot bigger than they are willing to let out.
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The second plane looked similar to a C-130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar - while at the same time - guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.
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But NOBODY WANTS TO KNOW.
I can't believe it.
It's so frustrating.
Prehaps it's too hot.
Alreadypublished,
thanks for the second link with more eyewitness accounts of molten steel. I have included this in my piece. As for the Pentagon, the only firm conclusion is that the government's version is false. I have rewritten "UAV" as "remote-controlled projectile", which keeps a lot of options open. One question: Is it too provocative to say that "[Zionist deniers] should be drummed out of the Truth movement"?
I posted similar but more detailed response yesterday, that inexplicably appears to have vanished...
bruce - contrary to your faith-based assertion, it is simply not true that most of the winesses were from USA Today or other media outlets.
Please carefully re-read the indicting statements of the witnesses referenced in my compendium.
cheers.
Poseidon, thanks for the great collection of links.
And, re: zionist-deniers - I think it's very lenient. They should be shunned altogether.
ap, there were a lot of technical problems lately. I didn't see a comment from you in my inbox. I bet it never registered.
How come more people don;t know the truth?
I'm trying to educate people in Ireland about this and a lot of people see the lie for what it is but as many don't want to use their brains to see what really happened!
dontbelievettruth.blogspot.com
hi rbaos!
welcome!
generally, people don't believe the truth either because they don't want to, or they don't know how to because they're blinded by their own selfish desire to hold on to the illusion for one reason or another.
After all, many have spent their whole lives working within a system which we are now trying to tell them is not only utterly bereft of any wholesome value whatsoever, but is indeed the world's engine of evil.
nice blog you got there!
:)
peace.
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