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Nuke analysis: another look at Iran

The great thing about blogs is that sometimes someone comes along and posts a comment that just turns your head. The even greater thing is that, given their permission, you can go ahead and post the comment because it is that good.

Confessions of a Malamute just logged this comment on the last post, A Different take on Iran's Oil Bourse, and we read it and thought, yeah! More people should read this. We asked him, he kindly said yes. Here it is.

What the article avoids is the price the U.S. will pay for nuking Iran. I would have to say that the U.S. will deservedly become a pariah nation. Attacking Iran is a war the U.S. can’t possible hope to win. All they will achieve is their own demise. The U.S. army is broken and the leadership of the U.S. is incompetent. The Iranian people will fight like hell to preserve their independence from the American jackboot. They saw what happened to Iraq and they know what life was like under the Shah. They won't submit to the U.S.

The only way the U.S. will get away with nuking Iran is to nuke itself first (since Iran doesn't actually have ANY nuclear capabilities despite the lies of the U.S. government). It’s a lose lose situation for the U.S.

As for printing trillions of Euro’s to offset the U.S. dollar, Europe doesn't have to. Dump enough U.S. dollars and its economy, already on the edge, will go over. Nuke Iran for no reason and the world won't care what becomes of America.

I don't personally think there is just one simple reason to go after Iran. There are many. In order to be world dictator the U.S. needs its hands on the oil pumps. China and Russia are not Third World Nations. This nonsense of the U.S. being the only world super power is exactly that. Nonsense. Russia and China both have nuclear capabilities and the ability to deliver it. Unlike the U.S. Chinese economy is growing. Russia is recovering from its problems as well.

I highly doubt that China or Russia will allow the U.S. to play god and establish itself as world dictator. This is an over-reach based on the arrogance of America assuming it can do whatever it likes with no consequences to itself. It simply doesn't have the military capability to rule everything. The U.S. will find out what Germany did in WW2. It may have a powerful military but it can't fight the whole world. All that is needed to watch america go down in flames is a spark. That spark is Iran. Without oil the U.S. can't run anything at all let alone its military.

If Russia, Iran, Venezuela, get together and stop exporting oil to the U.S. it's end game. Normally that would not happen. The U.S. however isn't playing by the rules and it's not in the interests of the other superpowers of the world to let the U.S. succeed. At best the U.S. invades Iran and it receives the same treatment that the Soviet Union did in Afghanistan. This will complete the task of breaking the U.S. military and ending American hopes of being world dictator. At worst Bush and his co-criminals will use nukes and that could well spell the end for us all.

The Iranian military is not helpless. The American people are not able or willing to sustain the large numbers of casualties necessary to take Iran out properly. A bombing campaign will not work. Which is why the war criminal government of the U.S. wants to use nukes. I knows it can't win without them and is hoping to get away with mass genocide. My personal view is the U.S. is finished as a nation. It’s a house of cards that will blow over without too much effort. Bush and the criminal Congress have no credibility left. The U.S. is in so much debt that it will never pay its way out and it can't possibly be able to borrow forever. Sooner or later the system will crash and when it does there will be some very unhappy faces in America. And smiles on the faces of the rest of the world.

This is what American arrogance and war crimes has bought it. No matter how many paid off bottom feeders CNN interviews, the average person won't care if the U.S. goes down in flames. After pissing off the entire planet do you really think we outside America will care ? We don't.
Incidentally we got mail from redeyejedi directing us to this thread at godlikeproductions.com. A user who calls herself Birdie had this to say.
Okay. For those who respect my person and were kind enough to ask nicely, here's something you need to check out, because this is what I was told by John Hannah.

On March 11, in the morning ( I don't know the exact time because they're "chewing over the details" and such), at least two or maybe three cities on the west coast are going to get nuked.

The plan is that the nukes will be delivered by a sub in the ocean. The sub will be destroyed (maybe) and all fingers point at al Qaeda. Then the evidence hits the news desks even before anyone gets a chance to examine the real deal, and the evidence says ... "Hey, guys, this sub was an Iranian sub. Made in Iran by Iranian technicians. Gee, ain't that strange?"
Trying to decide whether this was a piece of psyops/disinfo, a hoax or for real we looked up John Hannah. The jury's still out.


At Friday, March 10, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Pretty scary, eh?

Nice pic, though...;)

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger vper1 said...


At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

vper1, are you speechless?

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger Yukkione said...

Thats some horrific stuff. Of course alot of people in the world really dont care if we go down, and would be wiling to through dirt in our grave. As to the West coast nuke thing?.. wow, wouldnt want to be whoever we frame for that one.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

I'm praying that it's a hoax or disinfo psy-ops

God help us all.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys, what if the demise of the US is just part of a bigger plot? You know, Hegelian BS? Create utter global chaos and let the NWO finally save the day?

Yesterday I came across a mindblowing documentary called "The Money Masters", which is available from Google video (read more about it at www.themoneymasters.com). Please, for what it's worth, everyone watch this! It might well be that PNAC, AIPAC and all the other visible ideologues are really just pawns.

Even if you disagree, this documentary offers vast, striking, vital and most of all severely underreported historical background information, so you will get something out of your invested time either way.


At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Hey Lumos, thanks for the link! That's a staple part of every American's info diet. It's up towards the top of our sidebar under money links. Though, I believe that's the link to order a video. Always good to have another link to SEE it!...:)


At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, didn't even notice that link before, my bad. I'm easily diverted by the entries themselves, guess I should go now and sift through the rest of those links ;)

Anyway, I think that in times like these - 9/11 being a hoax, the US heading for fascism, the world on the brink of potential chaos - everyone should be inquiring about the root cause, which I'm convinced lies right there with parasitical, perverted megalomaniacs basing their powers on collectively tolerated fraud. In case they've indeed been plotting for some time, profiting from conflicts, consolidating their power through acquisition of medial and political influence, there just might be a plot to incite an enormous global crisis through the US in order to finally establish their desired plutocratic NWO kingdom, in which case focus on the symptomic. readily visible actors would just divert energies from the actual solution to the problem.

I was aghast at the struggles over the course of history concerning banking illustrated in there. I believe the utter and complete lack of education about this is systemic and intentional, lending further credence to the above mentioned hypothesis. However, this lack of understanding can be overcome by relentless efforts to inform, which I have no choice but to commit to. So should all of us.

The sudden deaths of prominent opponents to private central banking make it clear that we can't just step up before the time is ripe, though. We need serene patience, fierce determination and an excellent plan altogether, but our time will come

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Lumos, your determination and your zeal is impressive and inspiring. It's always good to know that someone else has seen the light and has dedicated their energies to unraveling this madness for the world to see.

We've been working tirelessly for months now. All we need is a few more hundreds of thousands of people to join the effort. One person at a time, we will overcome.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty nice summary.

I personally think, but I'm not qualified to make an educated opinion about it, that military option is not viable in Iran. Some nukes may destroy and eradiate the entire planet, but they can't tactically (just look at the map - mostly mountains, nukes are not every effective there).

And let's not forget how WW2 got started.
Polish army attacked the Germans, and they unleashed hell. Or at least that was the official story.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're damn fools if you believe what this guy has said. I'm not saying that the US goberment is the best we've had, but the person that left you that coment is clearly an anti-american and is not telling the truth, he's only telling us his deepest desires. All western countries have the same economic problem. If the US cracks the whole world will crack with it. Like it or not, the world moves with dollars, even in Europe, the biggest amounts of credit the countries have are in dollars. Let's not forget who are enemies are. The enemies of the western countries are the religious fanatics that yell jihad against us. when the third world war starts, and the US has to save the day again, what will you say? This happened in the second world war and there are still many persons that envy the US for saving the day. Well, it will happen again. And everyone will have to thank us.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Anon said: "Let's not forget who are enemies are. The enemies of the western countries are the religious fanatics that yell jihad against us."

You are brainwashed. There is no such thing as US. There are slave laborers and economic lords. In the U.S. there is both. So, it is impossible to lump us together when our interests are diametrically opposed.

I am sick and tired of being a slave laborer. I want to be a free human being.

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger Unknown said...

The US cannot get away with anything now. Their credibility is totally lost. Unfortunately, Americans cannot look beyond their borders and their media, which is curiously more and more silent on world issues.

The United States will get a thrashing at the hands of the Iranians. All the US can do is bomb, bomb, bomb like idiot bullies and pretend they are winning.

Unfortunately, the only way to stop the US now is to destroy its economy before it churns enough dollars to finance its military. And the purpose of the US military is to pave the way to steal resources so that its economy keeps functioning. What gives first? Who knows?

What can the jihadists do? Fell a few more buildings? So what's the big deal? Don't want them to have nukes? Get rid of all nukes in the world. You cannot keep piling on your arsenal and tell other people it is bad to do so.

In 2002, I was talking to co-workers in Atlanta and they said, "Bush knows something we don't - something is wrong about Iraq." I responded, "I know something about those people - they will never give up."

You cannot crush the jihadists because they are not a cult. I know those people - it is a movement for self-respect born out of the US occupation of Arab lands for the past 50 years. What is occupation? When an island of 600,000 has a huge US base. When the US Fifth Fleet's headquarters is in Bahrain. When its planes fly sorties from a Saudi airfield.

The most sure way to finish is the jihadists is to show mutual respect for others - which alas an empire will never do until its nose is rubbed in the dust and its leaders are made to wear orange uniforms and caged - or perhaps pictured with their mouths open.

All our religions tell us arrogance is bad, and all the fables and stories tell us that the arrogant are ultimately humiliated.

If Americans want to rewrite history and world wisdom - keep trying. :)

At Saturday, March 11, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

"Unfortunately, the only way to stop the US now is to destroy its economy before it churns enough dollars to finance its military."

I suspect that it will begin with oil - withholding it.


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