Gingrich equates 8 Israeli lives to 500 American
“When Israel loses 8 people it’s the equivalent of losing 500 Americans.”He said it in attempt to justify Israel's brutal and savage response to the abduction of its soldiers, but the message is abundantly clear.–Newt Gingrich on MSNBC, July 16, 2006
Israelis are not just better than Palestinians, Syrians, Iranians, and Lebanese - they're also more precious than Americans.
posted by qrswave @ Sunday, July 16, 2006
42 Comments:
I love the way you take the meaning of this statement completely out of context and then twist it around propagandize it to suit your agenda.
Who are you guys anyway, who do you really represent. Your blog is so biased it is pathetic
tell me how else it can be interpreted?
he said that when 8 Israelis die it's like 500 Americans die.
What else can that mean except that Israeli lives are more precious than American lives?
I am not twisting it. It IS twisted.
Your blog is so biased it is pathetic
Not really, it's a counter to the pathetically controlled Zionist media that has your brain scrambled in a million directions. "The truth shall set you free" is more than just a saying. Jesus fought against these very same Talmudic Pharisees and unfortunately they have since taken control of Christendom in support of the Zionist menace.
Here's the real plan if you didn't know it and how it's unfolding according to the design of the Zionist Satanists that crafted it over 100 years ago:
Pike's Letter to Mazzini, 1871
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
This is yet another example of qrswave demagoguing her way through the internet.
You make me sick, qrswave.
What Gingrich actually said was that because Israel has less people, when eight people die, it is PROPORTIONATELY the same as 500 Americans dying.
But no, you decide you have to lie and demagogue your way through the net.
Typical.
And you wonder why I cannot be friends with you anymore.
I am not twisting it. It IS twisted.
I doubt he will understand unless he undergoes massive deprogramming. Their minds think in "Newspeak" and so reality is that much harder for them to grasp.
What Gingrich actually said was that because Israel has less people, when eight people die, it is PROPORTIONATELY the same as 500 Americans dying.
Who has time for details? You know as well as the rest of us Amerikkkans only hear sound bites. The meaning and intent is there, even in the wicked Talmud states that 1 of "theirs" is worth 1,000 Goyim.
You are bang on disaffected youth, nesync I really feel sorry for you, go for some help, the early 20th century zionist consipiracy theory has been disproven over and over again and no Jews do not drink christian blood on passover, welcome to the 21st century nesynch and GO GET SOME HELP and STOP the PROPAGANDA
Disaffected youth (aka Miss R)
I know what he said, and what he meant.
He was trying to justify the disproportionate deaths of OTHER people as compared to Israelis by using Americans as an example.
Taken to its logical conclusion it can only mean that Israeli lives are more precious than American lives.
He unwittingly revealed that if he had to weigh Israeli lives AGAINST American lives he would draw the same conclusion. After all, there are far fewer Israelis than there are Americans.
If I make you sick, stop visiting the site.
For heaven's sake nesynch what Talmud are you quoting from, the Palestinian Talmud or the Bablonian Talmud, and again you have the art of taking statements completely out of context, please go back and extract the whole phrase you are quoting and PLEASE GO FOR HELP
qrswave you have no idea what Newt said or what he meant, you have been completely deafened by your bias and your prejudice, you twist the truth to suit your agenda and continue your propaganda, no the name of your site is a total farce, it should be, our falsehoods further perpetuate your slavery into prejudice and close mindness, and qrswave go join your friend nesynch and GET SOME HELP
MAINSTREAM MEDIA HEADLINE:
"G8 blames Middle East 'Terrorists'"
Translation:
The leading G8 countries, among others, are enemies of their own people and ordinary people of the world! Don't expect intervention against Israel from these countries or their current leaders. They ARE the global conspiracy against humanity!
It's all up to God now - and always has been, Thank God :) Israel and America will get a Divine Hammering!
Get the details at www.novalight.org (while you still can)
Objective Contrast With Jew Lies Is Telling And Effective, Quite
(Mighty Thor, 16 July 06)
Yes qrswave, u're absolutely correct, accurate, right on, solid, and incisively correct. Jews are simply topmost gangsters, assassins, and criminals as Mike Collins Piper describes and documents in his "The New Jerusalem," Jew gangsters always having been boss in American organized crime.
Jews are just a race of criminals who want to "organize" the world within their dictatorship behind the United Nations front, powered and fueled by the counterfeiting scam known as fractional-reserve money and banking like the US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed). Ck G. Edward Griffin's "The Creature From Jekyll Island" for outstanding expo on such counterfeiting scam.
Jews cannot keep enjoying goyim "consumer confidence" if free internet continues exposing evermore "famous victories" of the Jews, so thematically ruthless, bloody, murderous, and treacherous. For that's what Judaism is, utmost celebration of subjectivism, hubris, narcissism, hysteria, and all order of madness--an amazing madness which ACTUALLY SUCCEEDS as long as there are enough gentile dupes to feed off, Jews the parasites of sublimity. See Mike A. Hoffman II's "Judaism's Strange Gods."
For that's what Judaism is, ultimately, a profound disease of the human race by which hubristic (subjectivistic) inferiors who suffer heresy among the goyim are consumed by the Judaic parasite, Jews operating in conspiratorial collusion with strategic gentile collaborators-accomplices like "Judeo Christians" (JCs--see Whtt.org) led by such as Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, et al., pushed on the people by the mass-corporate "Jews-media" over and over and over. See also the TheNewAmerican.com for expo on the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) conspiracy.
CONCLUSION: So qrswave continue ur good work speaking what u honestly say is the truth--getting the people to THINK. Then when we get Jews posting up with their stupid lies and psychopathology, people KNOW BETTER (by contrast) who's really being honest and respectful of the people's intelligence, as well as God's objective reality. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
Jews do not drink christian blood on passover
Well blood is what they crave, look at the attacks on Lebanon. This is only a beginning. I'd bet the Zionist are staging all the attacks Hezbollah is denying to further their "Greater Israel" conquest pre-planned for a least a century now. It's so in your face, how can you deny the truth?
BTW, Zionism is counterfeit Judaism, FYI. Its Satanic and Masonic in origin and an eventual betrayal to Jews world wide.
For heaven's sake nesynch what Talmud are you quoting from, the Palestinian Talmud or the Bablonian Talmud, and again you have the art of taking statements completely out of context, please go back and extract the whole phrase you are quoting and PLEASE GO FOR HELP
I think a Rabbi would know better than me:
“Rebbe Meir says: if there is a choice between saving the life of a Jew or saving the life of a Goy you are required to save the Jew. Why? Because one Jew is worth more then all the Goyim in the world” That is the relative value of Jews verse Goyim.
BTW, I'm not killing innocent men, women and children like the Zionist monsters; those are the people in need of "help."
Thor, you have been around for some time and know my position well.
I do not believe that ANY group of people, by default, can be blamed for the calamaties the world faces today - whether they're Jewish, Muslim, or Christian.
Do not include me in your camp against "Jews" because I do not belong there. I know many Jews who abhor Israel's immoral and inexecusable conduct and I would fight for their rights as I would for anyone else's.
The underlying problem is always the same - LIES and ARROGANCE - no matter who embraces them. And many people do, you admit as much.
I strive against those two evils as a matter of principle, in defense of justice and dignity for all.
Wow! We're worth a lot more than a million Arabs, according to the JDL:
We [the JDL] quote without comment the rabbi who conducted the services at Goldstein's funeral, "A MILLION ARABS ARE NOT WORTH ONE JEWISH FINGERNAIL."
Even the ADL has condemned this racist hate speech. How long until the ADL condemns Gingrinch?
Playing devils advocate here, I can see the quote in terms of numbers. Obviously US is a bigger country than Israel so perhaps for every 8 Israelis, the scale is 500 Americans in terms of population. That said, I can see how some people would take offense at it, in light of past comments about how Arab lives aren't worth as much as Jews, and so forth.
Beware of the "ADL." It is of questionable origin.
That said, I can see how some people would take offense at it, in light of past comments about how Arab lives aren't worth as much as Jews, and so forth.
Exactly! Were the violins playing during greenGrinch's presentation? If not, that was the desired effect. Pure unadulterated Zionist nonsense.
Thanks, I have no illusions regarding the ADL. It's a rare find when they criticize one of their own for bigotry.
Gingrich must be creaming his shorts with delight, just like all the Fox[man] News anchors. If only the God(s) out there would rapture up all these fanatics now, and spare the rest of us the bloodshed.
How long until the ADL condemns Gingrinch?
Doubtful! ;)
The reason you will all die in your sins is because you refuse to humble yourselves and submit to God's Son, Jesus, the one Jew is worth more than all the people in the world. That is why God was able to trade his sacrificial life for all of us. One Jew did die for all the rest. I assure you, as Jesus said, "if you believe not, you are condemned already". The bloodshed that is coming to this world is only beginning and none of you will escape. In revelation, it describes how even when the calamities and global plagues are happening, millions of people like yourselves will be cursing God and completely unrepentent. I can not for the life of me, understand the mindset of such people. "He who seeks to save their life shall lose it; but he who loses their life for my sake, shall find true life."
Indulgence In Stubbornness--Bane Of Gentiles
(Apollonian, 16 July 06)
Qrswave, u only undermine ur own position. U ARE OBLIGATED TO KNOW AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE full MEANING AND ESSENCE OF JUDAISM-TALMUDISM--A RELIGION OF MURDER, LIES (subjectivity and hubris), ANTI-CHRIST, ANTI-GOD (anti-objective), HENCE ABSOLUTELY SATANIC. And there is no "good" Jew--only one who is as ignorant of Judaism as u, for example, quite evidently.
This is the essence of ur present problem qrswave: ur refusal to face reality, nature, and essence of Judaism-Talmudism. I've given u plenty of citations and references--U HAVE NO EXCUSE.
Qrswave, u've been warned over and over and over as to the true and real nature of Talmudism-Judaism, and u continue to ignore the God-given objective reality--this is an unGodly indulgence and insolence on ur part, ur own sort of "arrogance" as u invoke against others, so self-righteously. Get a clue, as I've urged over and over.
If u're going to seriously fight the Jew Qrswave--or whatever it is u think u're fighting--u need to have the courage to see and know the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. Half-measures are fatal. Repent.
In the largest abstraction for things, the relevant struggle is the cyclic Spenglerian "Decline of the West" and hence Western objectivity versus Judaic subjectivity. Jews are presently successful as gentiles are so divided, confused, and demoralized.
Hence qrswave u help inasmuch as u respect the objective reality to ur limited extent, but ur own confusion and refusal to see the full truth about Judaic-Talmudic treachery, perfidy, and depravity is why and how gentiles fail. AT LEAST U'RE HONEST. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
Sinners and spinners, here's my prayer for peace:
Dear Lord, please pre-emptively rapture up all our blessed fanatics, so the rest of the world can be spared the bloodshed. Thanks.
Doesn't surprise me anymore. Not only do they think they're above the law, but that their some kind of supreme being on earth, sacred lives and never to be held for trial. Seriously, anybody who thinks this way deserves to be humiliated. Badly.
Won't be long till they start demanding that we worship them too..
Jew Religion (Talmudism): Founded In Subjectivity, Hubris
(Mighty Thor, 16 July 06)
Yes, brilliant observation, "anon" at 5:04 PM, above. Actually observe these stinking Jews got us taxpayers paying for their putrid holohoax "museum" in Wash. DC, by which Jew lies are given an entirely undeserved reverence. (See Ihr.org, Codoh.com, Zundelsite.org.)
Why is Ernst Zundel (google) in jail if he isn't merely a modern-day "heretic"?
And while this cheap popular holohoax religion, serving Jews, is pushed, observe Jew ACLU, for another example, works to abolish the people's Christianity, as the Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama State Supreme Ct. bldg. recently, couple yrs back.
Note ultimate basis of Jew religion is SUBJECTIVISM, the foundation for their cultural complex and network of fraud all utlimately founded upon the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) counterfeiting fraud (see above references). Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
I see "they" called in for reinforcement. That would be you NESYNC.
Since Miss R is scared to answer the question, and Stephen back-peddled. Perhaps you NESYNC can be "brave" enough to answer the question. And please, please, OH PLEASE just answer the simple yes or no question..... please!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miss R, you STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED NOR ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF ASHKENAZI. You are aware, aren't you of the history behind Ashkenazi Jews and Shephardic Jews and Jews who lived in Palestine for the last 2 thousand years, don't you?!
Ashkenazi Jews are actually a group of people who originated in Khazaria in SW Russia. Sphephardic Jew are the ones living OUTSIDE of Palestine (or what YOU would consider Israel) for that last thousand or hundreds of years (depending on the particular family), and have SOME, only some of the original "semitic blood" --- because of "mixing of impure" goy blood with "holy pure blood of the 'chosen ones' (TM)" --- GOD (TM) forbid, for them to do such a thing. These Sphephardic Jews have more similar genetics and facial features to those living in the middle east, such as the "Arabs" (Palestinians, Saudis, Jordanians, Kurds, etc).
And then there are the Palestinian Jews whose family for generations upon generations, upon generations, upon generations, for close to the last two thousand years (depending on whether the family converted into/out-of 'Judaism') LIVED IN PEACE IN PALESTINE. In fact, a scientific GENETIC RESEARCH was done that found that Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Muslims have virtually IDENTICAL genes, and that it was STATISTICALLY NON-DIFFERENTIABLE.
Now can you guess whom put pressure to have the Scientific Article REMOVED?! Some group of people with something to hide. Now would that group with so much power, that have JDL, AIPAC, PNAC as their branches, would they be:
a) Ashkenazi Jews
b) Shephardic Jews
c) Palestinian/Yisrael Jews
d) Stupid/"Useful" Goyims
Now Miss R, if you're really a "jew" as you claim, then you must have "some" grasp of the discrimination within the "jewish community" of Shephardic Jews and Palestinian Jews --------- somehow, as if these are SUB-GROUPS, that are of a class LOWER than then "true jew" (LOL).
There was a time when the Ashkenazi "jews" were just the minority, but now these blue-eye, blond/light brown haired (and sometimes RED HEADED FRECKLED "Irish") are the MAJORITY.
.................. Miss R, just as a curiosity, which category do you fall under?! a) or b) or c) ---- I don't think it's d).
Cheers!!!
;)
I'll repeat it, just so you can understand.
---------------- Are you white? -----------------
---------------- Are you a white Ashkenazi? -----------------
I wonder how many Iraqi's or Palestenians he would equate to 1 American...or do they even count as people?
P.S. Wonder if Newt will then use this to going back to counting black people as 3/5th's of a person. But then again using todays fraudlent voting technology they already are.
To clarify: that is already are only being counted as about 3/5ths of a person do to the large numbers banned from voting for no reasons.
I just want to say that I doubt Newt can even count to 500...unless we're talking about crack rocks -s-
Guys,
I like this blog and agree with much that is said here, but obviously Gingrich (repugnant though he is) was referring to the fact that 8 Israelis and 500 Americans each constitute the same percentage of people in their respective populations, and by trying to twist his words around like this you are simply discrediting yourselves and giving your opponents legitimate criticisms to hurl at you.
Anon said: "by trying to twist his words around like this you are simply discrediting yourselves and giving your opponents legitimate criticisms to hurl at you."
Thanks, btw, I'm glad you like the blog.
Now, re: Gingrich's words. Let me ask you this.
(1) Is it fair to say that Gingrich correlated the value of Israelis based on the number of Israelis on earth?
(2) And isn't is fair to say that he then compared the number of Israelis on earth with the number of Americans on earth and concluded that 8 Israeli lives to Israelis are like 500 American lives to Americans?
(3) Isn't it also fair to say that there are more Americans on this earth than there are Israelis?
(4) If all of the above is true, and you had to answer the question "How many American lives are worth one Israeli life TO ISRAELIS?
Then you would have to conclude that they would use the same twisted logic - which is to value the life of one human being against the aggregate number of their population - sort of like you would a COMMODITY in the open market.
Based on that twisted logic, they would have to conclude that an Israeli life is more precious than an American's.
Does that make sense to you?
the one thing I find missing in these blogs is any reference to the fact that if the general population of any of these countries, including the U.S., weren't subjected to a lifetime of conditioning and brainwashing to make them nice and servile, no one would allow themselves to be ordered to kill another by some idiot in the government!
America'sWorst Enemy
qrswave:
Gingrich did NOTHING of what you are implying. All he is saying is that because there are less Israelis on this planet, there is a greater likelihood that an Israeli knows one of the dead. There is a greater likelihood that an Israeli is grieving now for the loss of a loved one. And when a population is small, the loss is felt more accutely ACROSS the country - rather than in Manhattan alone, as in 9/11.
He in no way implied Israeli life is more significant than American life or any life. He in no way implied Israeli life is more signficant than Arab life. He did not compare Israeli life to Arab life.
You are looking to fill your life with hate. You are looking for ways to find the conspiracy theory. Please WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER!
What he probably meant to say was since the population of the US is about 50 times that of Israel losing 8 Israelis is as much of a loss to Israel as losing 400 (not 500) would be to the US. Which makes sense.
Boris Epstein said...
What he probably meant to say was since the population of the US is about 50 times that of Israel losing 8 Israelis is as much of a loss to Israel as losing 400 (not 500) would be to the US. Which makes sense.
Mon Jul 17, 09:32:44 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No what he really meant, was that A "jewish" Ashkenazi life is worth slightly more than a Shephardic "jew", which is more noticeably more than a Palestian jew, which is worth considerably more than a Palestian Muslim, which is about the same as an American Goy.
All of the above is worth CONSIDERABLY more than:
a Nigger
a Chink
a Gook
a Latino
since, Racist Zionists don't give a shit about these human beings.
Sad, sad, sad day indeed!
Newt's statement is simply flawed logic. If the deaths of 8 Israelis are equivalent to the deaths of 500 Americans, then the deaths of 8 gay people are equivalent to the deaths of 80 straight people. It would take the deaths of 100 American women to match the deaths of about 95 American men, while the deaths of 121 Chinese men are equivalent to the deaths of 100 Chinese women. Eight black deaths are the equivalent of 67 white deaths. By Newt's logic, the world wouldn't miss any straight Chinese men because proportionally there are so many more of them. I wonder what the equivalent number of Americans would be for a black Israeli lesbian? His logic is simply offensive. The value of all people whatever their nationality, race, gender, or creed, are all equivalent.
ALL FUCKING SAND NIGGERS MUST FUCKING HANG.
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