His name was Muhammad: What the MSM doesn't want you to learn about Islam
I realize it's a little late in the game for a crash course in Islam. But, in a time when the mainstream media and the people who control it are hell-bent on smearing and vilifying Islam to plunge us into war, much like they vilified others before in wars gone by, it’s vital to gain a better understanding of the faith, its prophet, and the values it represents.
[The first of a three part documentary,] this part deals with the life of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), his early life, his encounter with God Almighty and the birth of Islam. Islam would become the revitalizing force of a barbaric Arabia, returning people to God and bringing back the monotheistic message of Christianity and Judaism in the most powerful way.A few notable excerpts from the documentary:
Above all, Muhammad was to bear one message to his people – a simple, yet radical proclamation – that there is only one God.[snip]* * *
Divine unity is not only saying that there is only one God and that there aren’t other deities. It’s only thinking about one thing. So, to be thinking about possessions, to be thinking about status, to be thinking about power, are all intellectual idols.* * *
The implications were staggering. One God meant one people – no more tribal divisions. To the poor and unprotected the prospect was revolutionary.* * *
[O]ne of the most important things in his early teachings [is] the strong social justice message that he delivered. In Mecca, at the time, there was an increasing separation between the haves and the have nots. He insisted that this was not to be and that we should share the wealth and it was this social justice message that I think really got him a hearing among many of the folk.* * *
[C]oming with Islam [was] a new order, a new way of life and it was a beautiful way of life because everybody was equal – black, white, men, women, children, so it had that type of universal appeal which I think is the reason why Islam spread so rapidly.***
[Upon returning to Mecca, after defeating the Meccan army,] Meccans [expected Muhammad to exact] a big revenge - the men are usually killed, the women and children are sold into slavery. There is little pity for the losers - of course, that's standard around the world.
But, Muhammad had a surprise in store for the fallen city. When Muhammad came to Mecca and not only did not carry out a bloody revenge, he actually embraced the very Meccans he had fought for three years and who had attempted to annihilate him, it was very shocking to the people in his milieu.
So, within the very founding of the religion one finds episodes of great generosity, often extraordinary acts of kindness and mercy.
"But, BUT - that can't be! Islam is evil, I tell you - EVIL!"-- Israeli "Expert" on Terrorism
If you find the documentary informative, pass it on.
And No, this is NOT an attempt to proselytize - just an effort to expose the lies that have reached fever pitch and that threaten to plunge this nation into a senseless world war from which we may not emerge.
posted by qrswave @ Saturday, July 15, 2006
41 Comments:
Thank you for this piece. Very nice and your comments were spot on. I enjoy your blog, salute and encourage you.
wa salaam alaikum
I also enjoy your blog. Please continue to bring to us an unfiltered Muslim perspective.
...However, Mohommed has begat a race of murderers who threaten to tear the world apart. Those Muslims not taking up the sword and the AK against the West are tacitly giving approval by not condemning the terror. Unless Islam can go through a Reformation similar to other world religions, there are but three choices: the end of Islam, the end of the West, or hellfire upon us all.
My internet isn't that fast so streaming a 54 minute documentary will take ages.
But another great work about the life of the Prophet is the film "The Message" by Mustapha el Akkad. I strongly recommend anybody who comes by this film to watch it.
Though I don't mind your Islamic beliefs, one thing that is annoying is that Judaism/Christianity/Islam tend to "impose"/assume their beliefs on other people.
This is problematic, since there are "other" people on the planet --- other people who do NOT believe an omni-potent "god" that CREATED everything (which brings to question "who" created "god" -- but I'll leave that discussion for another time). People such as:
1) Scientists, who like to observe facts and not dwell in dogma
2) Buddhists -- who have a sceintific, realist view
3) Sikhism --
4) Hindus --
5) Just plain ol' people who are familiar enough with 'organized religion' that they rightfully, don't want a part of it
6) People who just want to live their lives, without any 'faith' (blind devotion) to something that "someone" (TM) who several hundreds/thousands of years ago claimed to have "met", while hallucinating in the HOT, DRY DESERT
7) People who believe in spiritualism, or that EVERYTHING/EVERYONE is just part of the 'universe', and there is NO such "super-creator"
8) etc, etc ,etc
There are many, many people. In fact the MAJORITY of people fall in the above categories.
Now this is not an 'attack' on you qrswave (since I'm a frequent visitor/contributor and self-thinking individual), or Islam or whatever. For what it's worth, I speak not out of ignorance, but from understanding. I've personally studie MANY 'religions', and strong student/teacher of Science and Logic.
In fact, my personal background would easily qualify me to one of what you would call "holy-man" ---- alas, it is from understanding that I declined.
However, I applaud you for your venacity in fighting for human life and dignity --- something that does NOT require a person to have any particular belief/religion to appreciate.
It is from this point-of-view, that I suggest you take. Since many of your readers, may not share similar religious beliefs as you, it is arrogant to assume otherwise. Again, this is no personal attack. It's just like those Jehova's Witnesses, or Church of JC of Latter Day Saints, etc, that come to your door. It's funny since, when I say I'm Buddhist (for example, or whatever), they have that awe look in their face. Then I ask them 'simple', just simple questions, such as: "Did you know that the earliest 'Book' of the 'New Testament' was NOT written by any of JC disciples, but by 'someone' SEVERAL GENERATIONS AFTER (close to 200 years later).
Now humor me for a second, but you guys remember that 'telephone game' you played in playschool, where everyone sits in a circle -- and a message is said to the first person, and they whisper to message to the next, and the next person whispers it to the next. And so on, and so forth, until it reaches the last person. And how many times is the verbal message retained, or for that matter even remotely close to the original message. And this happened in a span of a few minutes.
Now imagine the same thing happend over several generations and hundred(s) of years. And let's not forget that people tend to 1) add, 2) change, and 3) exaggerate.
Also add to the fact that that language is not extinct (versus extant), and the 'book' has been translated over, and over, and over again -- by 'people' with poltical agendas (and something to gain/lose).
And this is just one aspect --- there are many, MANY more. If you feel interesting, research it and think for yourselves...
The natural response would be "negative" (e.g. ignoring, or not listening, or making excuses) when our 'core beliefs' are challenged. Again, do not take this a personal 'attack' --- as this discussion is NOT direct towards anybody. It just comes to show, that there are many OTHER PEOPLE in the world --- other people who have their own ideas on the world, and the 'meaning of life' (TM). Some are dogmatic, others superstitious, and still others out of fear/hate/ignorance, and a few based on sound reason, facts and logic.
But whatever the case, it is a personal "belief" (I'm using this term loosely) of mine, that people, all people for that matter would be better off if we ALL showed more kindness, compassion, intelligence and wisdom --- that we respect other people as well as ourselves, that we ALSO respect this planet and its lifeforms. Since as you can see, if we view other animals as "lesser" than us, we have NO qualms about torturing/killing them -- just as some Israeli Zionists view other "races".
This racist supremist view that somehow we are "superior" and everyone else are goys that are lower than the beasts, makes it MUCH EASIER to hurt them, to steal from them, to lie and deceive them, and to murder them --- since that is how we view other animals. Just how the American GIs viewed the "Viet Cong" or the "Red Communists" or the "Gooks" --- and they would bomb villages and towns and cities to smitherines, that they would behead and rape millions, that they would use one of the most toxic and harmful agents known to mankind (Agent Orange) which today have their horrendous effects (1 MILLION children born/living with SEVERE BIRTH DEFECTS TODAY), that they would collect heads and EARS of their victims (man, woman, child, and elders) to "prove" their battle to the commanders....
anon, thanks!
a.truman, thanks for visiting my blog and I'm glad you enjoy it. But, you are either sorely mistaken about Muslims or you have an agenda. Either way, I don't think I can help you change your mind. peace.
Sphinx, hey I know what you mean. I used to have a slow connection - it was torture.
And finally - last but certainly not least - my dear friend "may I offer another view of the world",
Absolutely! Yes, I played that game in playschool, the one where you sit in a circle - Great stuff - very illustrative. All the points you make are valid. And forgive me if I came off as being arrogant, for that was certainly not my goal. I meant only to inform and educate readers about some salient historical facts about Islam, its history, and its qualities - sort of a counterbalance to the constant stream of vitriole being spewed from the mainstream media. I've been writing this blog for a number of months now. And those who have followed my writing from the start know that I originally meant to inform people about the scam that is our debt-based monetary system. I had deliberately kept my personal attributes concealed so as to allow people to consider my arguments on their merits without having a pre-conceived notion about my abilities, my age, my gender, my religious beliefs, etc. (Most people thought I was a guy - some people still do). After all, these personal attributes should not matter when people debate issues on their merits through logic and reason.
Anyway, my point is that this was not meant to glorify Islam, or market it. I meant only to inform and to demonstrate that people of different faiths have a lot in common - much more than the mainstream media would like us to believe. I respect anyone and everyone who respects all of God's creatures - whether or not they believe in God.
Thanks a lot, btw, you're a very thoughtful and articulate person and I'm glad you stop by often. I hope you continue to do so.
Fuck the pedophile prophet.
Fuck the moon god.
Fuck their death cult.
You'll go the way of your ideological allies from the 1940s.
alexander, you must be the friendly neighborhood zionist
enjoy life while you can, because when you die, you'll burn in hell
Alexander said...
Fuck the pedophile prophet.
Fuck the moon god.
Fuck their death cult.
You'll go the way of your ideological allies from the 1940s.
Sat Jul 15, 04:34:55 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's forgetting his PERVERTED ULTRA-RACIST TALMUD, and "Judaism" which is based on LIES and MAKE-BELIEVE. Heck, in fact, the "star of david" that so many Zionists hold dear, IS a satanic symbol only about a thousand years old. Rothschild adopted it for the flag, and "christianed" it the 'star of david'. Just like Hitler STOLE the holy Buddhist symbol, the Swatstika and used it for the "nazis". The 'swatstika' as it is known in the West, existed before Buddhas time as well (aka Prince Siddhartha's time was ~2600 years ago), in India as a holy religious symbol. It represents SAMSARA, i.e. the cycle of life and death of which we all exist in.
It seems fitting that Hitler, a "Jew" (Askenazi) would be so inclined to STEAL ideas from others and call his own. Much like Albert Einstein, who was JUST A PATENT CLERK, that's right a Patent Clerk --- the mathematical theories was already developed before his time, "his ideas" (TM) he stole from the patent applications. Even the "original" ideas came mostly from his first wife, of which after he USED her, he divorced her to MARRY HIS BLOOD COUSIN AND HAD CHILDREN WITH HIS RELATIVE. What kind of stupid Fuck is that?!!! (rhetorical question). A Fraudster indeed!!!
History and facts aside,
if you're "jewish" and you're "white", did you EVER QUESTION why you just don't fit into the middle-east arab landscape. Perhaps you should move a little to the north and a little to the east ----- in the area known as Khazar in SW Russia of present day. There you will find people will VERY SIMILAR skin color, and nose, and chin, and throat, and eyes, and hair, and mentality. Don't accept that you're the "chosen ones" so blindly --------- do you really believe that 'made-up-biblical-nonsense'?!!! (another rhetorical question).
a.truman north:
hellfire will be for most of creation, those of us who don't obey the Message or the messengers. Choose the one you want and obey him; however talk of destroying a race or religion is so reminiscent of what Hitler said 70 years ago. Humanity often loves to get rid of things/people it doesn't understand or blame them for their troubles. It's sad to hear speech like yours coming from the mouth of one living in the 21st century, after all our years of history and perspective as a race of people. However, it reminds me of the saying, 'those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it'.
Okay, I just have to interject.
Qrswave - why would you assume Anon 4:34 am is a zionist? He couold be anybody - he is a racist for sure, but he did not show he is a zionist by his words. Zionist is merely a belief that the Jews deserve their own state. It has nothing to do with hatred of Islam.
The fact that you interpret it as such shows me very much about the hatred within YOUR OWN heart.
And lest we forget why people have a hatred of Islam...
9/11, 3/11 (Madrid), 7/7 (London), 7/11 (Mumbai recently, though there were three other major attacks in Mumbai in the last 13 years), Bali bombing, the terrorism of Kashmir, the terror of the Palestinian suicide bombers, and of course Islamic Fundamentalism in general, and its utter hatred of gays and Jews, and the way in which women suffer under radical Islam.
The problem is that radical Islam, or as I like to call it, Islamofacism, is the face of Islam today. Like it or lump it, it is. And organizations such as CAIR - meant as a public relations organization - spends the bulk of their time defending Islamofacists, than they do denouncing terror. In fact, the bulk of Islamic organizations in the world have NOT denounced terror. So you excuse me if I don't see a justified association of many in the world of Islam with terrorism. Until Muslims STAND UP and denounce terror, they will be associated with Islamofacism. I think of moderate Muslims today as the Germans during WWII. Those who did nothing while Hitler was in power allowed the Holocaust to happen. Well, Islamofacism is waging a war on the world, and Muslims owe a special duty to the world to STOP those within their religion, and they are mostly NOT standing up to the plate to stop it all. Instead, I read bullshit denials of 9/11 from people like you. You spend your time "defending Islam" rather than ACKNOWLEDGING that there are people out there who ARE Muslim and DO commit terror, and as a Muslim, you would be far more effective in promoting Islam by DENOUNCING terror, rather than making excuses for it.
Let's examine what happens, shall we, when someone is critical of Islam. Let's examine Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She is living now with guards, 24/7 - because of the fatwa against her. Let's look at Irshad Manji, and the many death threats against her. Let's look at Wafi Sultan - same. Or Salman Rushdie - who still has a fatwa against him. Not to mention Theo Van Gogh - who was brutally murdered.
There is a clear pattern - anyone who dares to speak out about the brutal practices of Islam suffer a terrible fate. Sorry, but you DO NOT see such things occur in ANY OTHER RELIGION. Critics of Christianity, Judaism, Hiduism, Buddhism - I COULD GO ON - do not have to fear for their lives.
I am quite aware of the fact that there are many "moderate Muslims" out there who want to live peacefully. But why aren't they out there, proclaiming their disassociation of terror, in far greater numbers? (I know some have been out there, but let's face it - it's a small minority)
And might I add, more Muslims have killed fellow Muslims than the west ever has. Big Pharaoh has a great entry, titled "On Muslim Silence."
http://www.bigpharaoh.com/2006/06/26/on-muslim-silence/
I want to add a few words. I am quite aware of the fact that there are many moderate Muslims out there. But Islam is not inherently peaceful. That is a blatant LIE. Every major religion is NOT inherently peaceful - but Islam has been called a "religion of peace" by many in the world without examining the history of the world.
In fact, during the so-called "Golden Age of Islam" there was not "peace" between Muslims, Jews, and Christians. That is an utter LIE. The Muslims imposed crippling "dhimmi" laws upon non-believers. You had to pay very high taxes and were considered a second class citizen if you were non-Muslim. If you dare speak out, you were relocated or killed. This is a FACT - look it up yourself. I am aware that during that time period, the Christians had the Spanish Inquisition, not to mention the generally intolerable conditions of Europe during the Middle Ages. But the bottom line is, there was never a time in the history of the world when Jews, Muslims, and Christians lived side by side in peace. Anyone knowledgeable about history will tell you this.
History of the dhimmi laws:
http://dhimmitude.org/d_history.php
In summation, if you really want to promote the idea of "Islam is peace," then you should devote your blog to denouncing terror. Instead, your blog is devoted to justifying terror or denying its existence.
oh hi, Miss R!
I missed you! I mean that, really.
Good luck on the exam!
(I'll get back to you sometime on your arguments - but, now I'm very busy)
For now, let's all pray that Israel does take the world headlong into thermo-nuclear warfare.
OMG, I MEANT DOES NOT, DOES NOT (how silly of me - I was so excited to see you)
1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Koranimals don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity - making the desert bloom - while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces?
2. Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan?
3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria?
4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?
5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use?
6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan?
7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave” Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?
8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestinians”? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinian”?
9. Why do you not exhibit the same level of concern for say, people in Saudi Arabia who are beheaded, subject to amputation, stoning, honor killing etc.? What about women who are denied any semblance of basic civil rights, including the right not to be treated as property for the entertainment and abuse of her father, brothers, or husbands? What about the Muslims in Sudan and Egypt who are still enslaved, or the women there whose genitalia are barbarically cut off? How about the oppression of Shiites by Sunnis, the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq, or the massacre of “Palestinians” by Jordan (Black September)? Why doesn’t this concern you?
10. Did you ever stop to wonder how much better off everyone in the region would be if Arabs stopped trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel? What would happen if the Israelis gave up their weapons and disarmed? Would they live to see the next day? But what would happen if the Arabs completely disarmed? You know the answer: They would all be AT PEACE! And if there is no war to rile them up, the Arabs would be forced to look at their own repressive, pre-medieval societies. Why would they want to do that when there are Jews to kill?
11. Have you heard “People who define themselves primarily by what they hate, rather than who they love, are doomed to failure and misery”? Can you see the parallels to the Arabs, who are blessed with land and oil, but still gladly train their children to kill themselves in order to kill Jews? Have you heard Golda Meir’s words to the effect of “There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours”? Why do the Arabs hate so much?
http://dhimmitude.org/d_history.php Bat Ye'or (meaning "daughter of the Nile" in Hebrew; pseudonym of Giselle Littman) is an Egyptian-born British Jewish author and historian specializing in the Middle East, Islam, and non-Muslims in Muslim lands.
I think the wrietr is a bit biase.
Okay, then prove a SINGLE WORD is wrong.
I challenge you. The dhimmi laws are well documented.
oh, come on Miss R, you went from not posting in weeks to posting the same long and worn out tirade on two different posts?
That's not fair.
Anyway, in all fairness, the burden of proof should be on the person offering the evidence.
qrswave:
I already gave a citation - it was disputed and yet no alternative documentation was shown. No matter, I have a library of links concerning the "dhimmi" status of nonMuslims during the so-called "Golden Age of Islam." I am sure these will be similarly dismissed.
http://libro.uca.edu/ics/ics5.htm
http://www.dhimmi.com/
http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/xstnc-5.html
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/lewis1.html - written by Bernard Lewis, one of the foremost experts on Islamic history
http://www.secularislam.org/jihad/subjects.htm
The dhimmi laws are a matter of FACT. It is not even up for debate. It is a FACT that there never was peace between Jews and Muslims. It is a historical, known FACT for anyone who has picked up an actual history book.
Oh, and anon at 9 am's history was also correct.
Islam is not peace. NO religion is peace. ALL religions were founded on the basis of some sort of war/intolerance, and Islam is not exception. The lie "Islam is peace" makes me want to bang my head against the wall, in its utter fallacy and outright inanity.
"It is a FACT that there never was peace between Jews and Muslims."
Oh? You are Jewish and I am Muslim. I recall spending hours upon hours with you in law school, talking about everything under the sun - and we had a darn good time - until the subject turned to ISRAEL.
So, your absurd assertion just fell apart.
qrswave:
That has to be one of the silliest things you have said - and it's also not true.
I recall getting quite offended and shocked at your opinions re: the Danish cartoons and Islamofacism. (namely, your denial of Islamofacism)
Israel was not the only subject we disagreed about. And even if it were - which it's not - it does not disprove the fact that historically, Jews and Muslims have never lived side by side in peace. NEVER EVER.
Is it POSSIBLE for Jews and Muslims to live in peace? I only hope. But it never has happened in the history of the world - and this is way before Israel ever formed.
"I recall getting quite offended and shocked at your opinions re: the Danish cartoons and Islamofacism. (namely, your denial of Islamofacism)"
What's your point?
I distinctly remember you being shocked and appalled by some republican views on the economy, the tax system, and how this country is being plundered and pillaged by corporate special interests - yet you go to school with them every day, and most certainly wouldn't smear, vilify and demonize them, as you presently attempt to do to all Muslims - including me.
I won't argue with you anymore. But, I will not hesitate to take you task for any lies or defamatory statements you publish about me online.
You are avoiding the issues.
You cannot acknowledge a SIMPLE FACT that Jews and Muslims have never lived together in peace, AND that Islam is not a religion of peace.
I am not claiming Judaism is a religion of peace. I am saying there IS NOT RELIGION OF PEACE. Maybe Buddhism, but not even that - I read some stories about the Dalai Lama.
That said, it is only Islam that has daily terrorism going on across the world. There is only ONE religion that does that. And until moderate Muslims disassociating themselves from terror - rather than glorifying, justifying, or denying the existence of terror - there will be a natural association of Islam with terror. If you don't like it - do something about it. You are in a great position to do something about this - you will be a lawyer and upstanding member of the bar. Organize! Rally! Take back your faith!
I am merely citing facts here. Dispute the facts if you want to, but you are merely bringing in straw man arguments.
I do not discuss you on my blog anymore - unless your name comes up - and then I say I had a public spat. Search the records of my blog if you want to.
Do what you want on your blog - but please address the central points here.
NYC BAR already has a copy of this blog.
That anon was not me - I would never do that.
Also, it's not a citywide bar - it's a statewide bar.
"NYC BAR already has a copy of this blog."
The only Judgment I fear is God's.
My conscience is clear.
I fight for Justice.
Don'd kid yourself. You are no freedom fighter. Anti-freedom fighter, perhaps.
You give moral justifications and excuses for Jihad.
Some "justice."
Michael Price:
You are a fool.
I do not believe anyone is the "chosen race." I am against ALL religions.
When faced with facts, you decide to ignore facts.
Typical.
YOU are the racist. You are against the one Jewish state in the world - a state which is secular, liberal, and believes in justice for all. YOU are the racist, the liar, and the fool.
disaffected youth said...
Don'd kid yourself. You are no freedom fighter. Anti-freedom fighter, perhaps.
You give moral justifications and excuses for Jihad.
Some "justice."
Sat Jul 15, 02:20:49 PM EDT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miss R, you STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED NOR ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF ASHKENAZI. You are aware, aren't you of the history behind Ashkenazi Jews and Shephardic Jews and Jews who lived in Palestine for the last 2 thousand years, don't you?!
Ashkenazi Jews are actually a group of people who originated in Khazaria in SW Russia. Sphephardic Jew are the ones living OUTSIDE of Palestine (or what YOU would consider Israel) for that last thousand or hundreds of years (depending on the particular family), and have SOME, only some of the original "semitic blood" --- because of "mixing of impure" goy blood with "holy pure blood of the 'chosen ones' (TM)" --- GOD (TM) forbid, for them to do such a thing. These Sphephardic Jews have more similar genetics and facial features to those living in the middle east, such as the "Arabs" (Palestinians, Saudis, Jordanians, Kurds, etc).
And then there are the Palestinian Jews whose family for generations upon generations, upon generations, upon generations, for close to the last two thousand years (depending on whether the family converted into/out-of 'Judaism') LIVED IN PEACE IN PALESTINE. In fact, a scientific GENETIC RESEARCH was done that found that Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Muslims have virtually IDENTICAL genes, and that it was STATISTICALLY NON-DIFFERENTIABLE.
Now can you guess whom put pressure to have the Scientific Article REMOVED?! Some group of people with something to hide. Now would that group with so much power, that have JDL, AIPAC, PNAC as their branches, would they be:
a) Ashkenazi Jews
b) Shephardic Jews
c) Palestinian/Yisrael Jews
d) Stupid/"Useful" Goyims
Now Miss R, if you're really a "jew" as you claim, then you must have "some" grasp of the discrimination within the "jewish community" of Shephardic Jews and Palestinian Jews --------- somehow, as if these are SUB-GROUPS, that are of a class LOWER than then "true jew" (LOL).
There was a time when the Ashkenazi "jews" were just the minority, but now these blue-eye, blond/light brown haired (and sometimes RED HEADED FRECKLED "Irish") are the MAJORITY.
.................. Miss R, just as a curiosity, which category do you fall under?! a) or b) or c) ---- I don't think it's d).
Cheers!!!
;)
Whoever this anon is, you are a racist and a bullshiteer.
Jewish European settlers moved to Israel in waves - prior to the formation of the State of Israel - by lawfully purchasing land. That means that they have every right to be there. They moved because of the rampant discrimination they experienced in Eastern Europe - having to FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES in pogroms.
Then, once Israel formed, Arab Israelis remained, and WERE NOT KICKED OUT! In fact - Arab Israelis now are 20% of Israel.
So there. You lied and misled.
It's all there in history books. Every word. I actually read BOOKS - probably unlike you.
You are a racist and a liar. That puts you in good company with most commentators on this blog.
Miss R, please OH PLEASE answer the question. Are you WHITE? Or are you BROWN? The answer to the question will help in clearing up the question below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miss R, you STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED NOR ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF ASHKENAZI. You are aware, aren't you of the history behind Ashkenazi Jews and Shephardic Jews and Jews who lived in Palestine for the last 2 thousand years, don't you?!
Ashkenazi Jews are actually a group of people who originated in Khazaria in SW Russia. Sphephardic Jew are the ones living OUTSIDE of Palestine (or what YOU would consider Israel) for that last thousand or hundreds of years (depending on the particular family), and have SOME, only some of the original "semitic blood" --- because of "mixing of impure" goy blood with "holy pure blood of the 'chosen ones' (TM)" --- GOD (TM) forbid, for them to do such a thing. These Sphephardic Jews have more similar genetics and facial features to those living in the middle east, such as the "Arabs" (Palestinians, Saudis, Jordanians, Kurds, etc).
And then there are the Palestinian Jews whose family for generations upon generations, upon generations, upon generations, for close to the last two thousand years (depending on whether the family converted into/out-of 'Judaism') LIVED IN PEACE IN PALESTINE. In fact, a scientific GENETIC RESEARCH was done that found that Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Muslims have virtually IDENTICAL genes, and that it was STATISTICALLY NON-DIFFERENTIABLE.
Now can you guess whom put pressure to have the Scientific Article REMOVED?! Some group of people with something to hide. Now would that group with so much power, that have JDL, AIPAC, PNAC as their branches, would they be:
a) Ashkenazi Jews
b) Shephardic Jews
c) Palestinian/Yisrael Jews
d) Stupid/"Useful" Goyims
Now Miss R, if you're really a "jew" as you claim, then you must have "some" grasp of the discrimination within the "jewish community" of Shephardic Jews and Palestinian Jews --------- somehow, as if these are SUB-GROUPS, that are of a class LOWER than then "true jew" (LOL).
There was a time when the Ashkenazi "jews" were just the minority, but now these blue-eye, blond/light brown haired (and sometimes RED HEADED FRECKLED "Irish") are the MAJORITY.
.................. Miss R, just as a curiosity, which category do you fall under?! a) or b) or c) ---- I don't think it's d).
Cheers!!!
;)
Michael Price:
You are married to an Asian, and that means you are so peace loving, ra ra ra?
Please, don't make me laugh.
The prisoners in Israel are terrorists. They captured those who attempted to suicide bomb or were suicide bomb planners. Hardly an act of aggression. So you suggest that terrorists should roam free in the forrest? Yeah, right.
I do not consider non-Jews to be inferior. That is your lie and your racism you decide to say I believe.
Zionism is not racism. However, anti-zionism is anti-semitism. You, sir, are an anti-semite and a liar.
http://cultureforall.blogspot.com/2006/07/anti-zionism.html
That explains how and why anti-zionism is anti-semitism - hatred, pure and simple.
You are a hater of the worst kind. It's disgusting.
Are you white? Are you are white Ashkenazi?
This is really a simple question, yes or no.
Anon 3:33 pm:
How is it relevant what I am?
Firstly, I am not Israeli.
Secondly, you are a liar and bullshiteer. See above re: Israeli settlers lawfully purchasing land.
You are a hater of the worst kind. Hitler would have been proud.
Miss R quote
"See above re: Israeli settlers lawfully purchasing land."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 'Israeli settlers' who came from EUROPE and RUSSIA are "white", whereas the people in the middle-east are dark-olive/brown. Not only are their skin colors different, but their FACIAL FEATURES are different. The so-called 'Isreali' FOREIGN settlers have more PHENOTYPIC features in common with your typical EUROPEAN than they do with your typical ARAB. They look nothing like Saddam Huessein, or Arafat, or any of the ORIGINAL INHABITANTS of the middle east.
So what does it mean that "purposed the land legally" before moving there. If say I purchased land legally in America, and I come from Europe, or Asia, or Africa -------- Does it mean I'm "American" or for that matter "ABORIGINAL NATIVE"?!!!
That's the STUPIDIST excuse today!
Michael Price:
You have no regard for the lives of Jews. I do not consider "goyim" to be inferior. ZIONISM does not consider "goyim" to be inferior. In fact, nonjews have full legal rights within Israel! Compare that to most of the Muslim world. I also do not consider Rachel Corrie's death to be proof of ANYTHING. It was an accident, and she was a supporter of terror. What exactly is her death supposed to mean?
PLEASE!
I actually care about Palestinian life. It is you who actually would prefer that Palestinians are slaughtered en masse. Then you can show how "evil" Israel is, and how "evil" zionism is.
Anti-zionism is anti-semitism. It is hatred. You, sir, are a hater. The fact that you claim to have friends of different races/ethnicities is immaterial. You are a hater.
What disgusts me most is that you hate Muslims more than you hate Jews, in your glorification of the deaths of Palestinians. You glorify the false victim status of Palestinians - thus ensuring they will continue to be in the state they are in ad infitum.
Why do you hate Muslims so much? Please answer me that. Why are you such a hater of peace? Why do you hate justice? Why do you hate Palestinians?
Beyond atrocious. You suffer from a sickness. I suggest you seek psychological help.
"Why do you hate Muslims so much?"
What in the world are you talking about?
There is absolutely no indication that Michael hates Muslims. He's been objective and reasonable throughout.
Your efforts to discredit those who differ with your position reveal your desperation. You should take a break.
Michael Price does hate Muslims, in his glorification of the deaths of Palestinians. He glorifies the false victim status of Palestinians - thus ensuring they will continue to be in the state they are in ad infitum.
For that matter, you too hate Muslims when you do as much. I realize you are yourself Muslim, but you can be a self-hating Muslim.
I did not lose any argument. In fact, you showed yourself to be a hater par excellance.
You encourage the continuance of the Palestinian faux victim cult, not to mention glorify the deaths of Palestinians in a sick sort of way. This only results in the continuance of violence.
Therefore, I must infer that you hate Muslims and hate Palestinians. Sad, sad, sad.
You too, qrswave.
From now on, everytime I read an entry of qrswave's, I will make a mental note of the depth of hatred she obviously must have towards Palestinians, because all she (and you, and most commentators on this blog) is doing is helping to instigate more violence.
Typical to twist the truth Disaffected Youth is. Make a mental note as well that you have gone loco.
Salam qrswave; keep up a good blogs.
As for disaffected youth, what a desperate twisted loser(can see the magnitude of his anger).
Believe whatever you want (you dont believe anything? that's your 'believe'. Nobody can take and change that!).
It doesnt matter!
Islam is PEACE religion.
"lakum dinukum wali yaddin"
MY
"lakum dinukum wali yaddin"
Translation:
You have your religion, I have mine.
(in other words, live and let live)
‘Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.’ 2:191
‘Let not believers take the infidels as friends.’ 3:28
‘Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.’ 3:85
‘Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.’ 5:33
‘Believers, do not take Jews and Christians as your friends.’ 5:51
‘I will instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: strike off their heads and strike all their finger-tips off.’ 8:12
‘Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.’ 8:60
‘The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.’ 8:65
‘When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them.’ 9:5
‘Make war on the infidel.’ 9:14
‘The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.’ 9:28
‘The Jews and the Christians are perverse infidels; fight them.’ 9:29-30
‘Believers, make war on the infidels living in your midst.’ 9:123
‘Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.’ 22:19
‘Do not make peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.’ 47:4
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