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What's Wrong With This Picture? 7-16-06, NO-IMAGES-OF-DEAD-ISRAELIS.

First, let me be perfectly clear. I am NOT drawing conclusions about what ACTUALLY happened in Haifa yesterday. I was not there and have NO WAY of knowing, aside from what was presented to the world via images by Israeli sources in the mainstream media.

My conclusions pertain only to what can reasonably be gleaned from a pool of over 350 images from yahoo news - yesterday alone. It does NOT apply to images of events occuring afterwards, nor to images that were not available to me from yahoo news.

Consequently, my conclusions may be refuted with credible documented evidence of actual Israeli deaths occuring on July 16, 2006 as a direct result of Hizbullah fire, in the city of Haifa - if it exists.

I do not dispute that rockets were fired - I only question whether, based on the images presented, they caused the deaths attributed to them by Israelis.

Let me further make clear, that I am neither happy nor eager to see dead Israeli civilians. Every human life is equally sacred - not to be weighed and measured based on demographics, as if human life were a commodity.

My goal is to examine the evidence presented as the basis and justification for the continuing massive, deadly, and merciless assaults on the people and nation of Lebanon today.
Israel warned of massive retaliation after the Haifa attack, and accused Iran and Syria of providing the weaponry used in it.
If we are to stand by as our leaders allow Israelis to destroy with impunity an entire nation, the world must at least demand credible evidence from Israelis that the justification actually occurred.

If no one in the mainstream media will ask critical questions or offer objective observations, then as a citizen and as a human being I am duty-bound to raise these crucial questions.

Before you continue, if you haven't already, please examine the images for yourself and draw your own conclusions (many images are no longer available at yahoo).

Analysis

Without going into too much detail about the laws of evidence, before a photo or image can be admitted into the record it must be authenticated by someone with personal knowledge that the photo fairly and accurately represents the people or objects portrayed. Often, there is no other way to verify the truth of its contents.

The witness need not be the photographer - merely someone who can testify to the accuracy of the events and objects its proponents assert it portrays.

The analysis does not end there. The witness's credibility, including a history of lying, evidence of bias, or some other motive to lie must also be considered.

If a witness is either biased or otherwise incredible, it stands to reason that, at most, the image should be taken only at face value (for what it actually shows), NOT as evidence of the narrative attributed to it by the party submitting it.

Examining the Evidence

All night I clicked through these images and try, as I may, I could not find a single credible image of one dead Israeli - NEITHER MILITARY NOR CIVILIAN.

The only images of 'dead people' depicted Israeli rescuers or policemen moving SEALED body bags - their contents to be taken on faith.

There were only two images of an injured Israeli, a man on a stretcher. Notably, his injuries were evidenced only by one isolated stream of blood on his forearm. No evidence of injuries from shrapnel were apparent on his chest and abdomen, as would be expected from random explosions (compare chest, abdomen and legs of Lebanese toddler injured by Israeli bombs).

The only other images of Israeli civilians depicted family members of those allegedly killed. One image showed an Israeli woman fainting, the cause - not apparent - is explained by narrative. Another image shows Israeli women embraced, with subdued expressions of sadness on their faces - again, explained by narrative.

Conspicuously absent in all the images of Israelis, both rescuers and victims, is a sense of imminent fear, extreme anxiety, shock or pain, or other human expressions that invariably accompany scenes of brutal and sudden death and destruction.

In stark contrast, in the images showing Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, their suffering and injuries are palpable and apparent - the terror in their eyes, unmistakable. No narrative is required - the images speak for themselves.

Likewise, the damage to Lebanese and Palestinian infrastructure is staggering - whole buildings are flattened. It is absolutely impossible for these breathtaking scenes of destruction to have been captured at some other remote point in time. In sum, the images are so unique and compelling as to virtually eliminate the need for independent authentication.

Conclusion

We already know that Israelis will lie to "protect themselves" from perceived enemies. Moreover, every image of Israelis online is photographed by an Israeli. This alone is enough to demand independent verification. But, Israelis have repeatedly denied foreigners access to areas of conflict in order to independently monitor events on the ground. Indeed, Israelis have a history of shooting at and killing foreign journalists.

After examining these images, I can only conclude that Israelis have NOT presented the world with credible evidence that the deaths upon which they base their continued murderous campaign against Lebanese civilians ever actually occurred.

Are Israelis lying about the deaths at Haifa, July 16, 2006 in order to justify intensifying their assault on Lebanon?

It is unclear.

But if they are, they must be exposed.

45 Comments:

At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again with conspiracy theories. Again with LIES.

In fact I saw dead bodies of Israelis. In fact you saw dead bodies of Israelis. You decide to LIE in order to advance your conspiracy theory.

Just disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

where are the images you saw.

Present them with a link and I'll publish them immediately and retract my analysis.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

qrswave:

Report on who the victims are.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3276864,00.html

Website devoted to images of the Israeli suffering during war:

http://abaleboosteh.blogspot.com/

What appears to be a dead body that in fact was one of the images you linked to:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2146/3105/1600/pic5.jpg

Unlike, say, the depravity of the Palestinians, Israelis do not take graphic images of dead bodies. Let's contrast that with the following:

This link is of a dead IDF soldier, and Palestinian children taking pictures of the dead body, which is torn apart by the Palestinians.

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71461653&cdi=0

Let's see you have THAT featured on your site.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

if only jewish crimes were prosecuted perhaps some like these : The first aircraft hijacking was carried out by Israel in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner, Grenades in cafes: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17 March 1937, Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6 July 1938, Blowing up a ship with its civilian passengers still on board: first carried out by Zionists in Haifa on 25 November 1940. The Zionists did not hesitate to blow up their own people in protest at the British policy of restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine. The ship, Patria, was carrying 1,700 Jewish immigrants, Assassination of government officials: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Cairo, when on 6 November 1944 Lord Moyne was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang and Israeli prime minister, was behind the plan and assassination, Use of civilian hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18 June 1946, Blowing up of government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946. The toll was 91 Britons killed and 46 wounded in the King David Hotel. Menachim Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack and later became Israeli prime minister, admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah Zionist gang, Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13 October 1946, Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December 1946, Beating of hostages: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv, Netanya and Rishon on 29 December 1946, The massacre of Qibya, northwest of Jerusalem, was carried out by Unit 101, under the command of Ariel Sharon on Wednesday 14 October 1953. The attack was the bloodiest and most brutal Zionist crimes since the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. Forty-two houses as well as a school and a mosque were dynamited over their inhabitants. Seventy-five women, men and children were killed. just some of the early jewish terrorism, and people wonder why the arabs fight back.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

First, let me applaud your speed and dedication to the Israeli cause.

However, the only like you sent which appears to show an Israeli dead body, in fact, is not apparent from the picture, but must be taken on faith.

Moreover, the paramedics standing by the victim don't seem to be particularly shocked or disturbed. Indeed, one of them is yawning.

As for the picture that claims to represent the boot of a dead Israeli soldier - what's there to show? It's a boot. Moreover, military deaths are qualitatively different from civilian deaths.

I'm still waiting for credible images of Israeli fatalities from the Haifa attack, July 16, 2006.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw just nuke them. All of them. The permanent 5 should just agree and turn the place to glass tomorrow. Isreak, gaza, west bank, syria, iraq, iran, jordan... all of it. Just kill them all and god will sort them out. This shit has gone on long enough.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israelis do not take graphic images of dead bodies.

Interesting. So basically Israel can make up whatever body count they want with no proof. Such a tradition would make it extremely hard to confirm such grandiose body counts as "6 million." Who needs more proof than the word of a Zionist? Need more, and you're a jew-hating anti-semite.

It's Never Again! all over again...

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

@Anonymous (4th comment):

People wonder why the arabs fight back because they do not know about this stuff. They only get pictures of poor scared Israeli people getting blown up in Cafes on a regular basis. Their media subtly gives them the impression that Islam is a violent, hateful and dangerous religion, so we are the first ones to get ripped on, because we count as barbarians. That's why.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger nes718 said...

I agree with you analysis. I recon the whole numbers game is in line whit the massive onslaught of Lebanese dead and to make it "look" like a fight is really ensuing.

I don't doubt Hezbollah is shooting back in some redistricted but I'm counting on them saving their ammo for the eventual Israeli ground assault. Unlike the pussies that are the IDF, the Hezbollah resistance knows who in fact they have to target once the real fighting gets underway.

Israel is currently doing what the US did in Iraq during the "Shock and awe" campaign. We all know how that's turning out. Israel is making the same mistakes and WILL suffer heavy military loses when the time is right. Hezbollah has no real reason to strike at the Israeli civilian infrastructure just yet. The real enemy is fast approaching and I'd bet that’s where the missiles and rockets will be fired at when Israel finally bites off more than they can chew.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

qrswave:

Here is an image of a dead body that you posted earlier. NOTE: Israel does not revel in death and the cult of faux victimhood, unlike the Palestinians, who are professional faux victims.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2146/3105/1600/pic7.jpg

Of courrse you will deny it, and claim it's a conspiracy theory. But that's right: "I don't hate Jews! I am just against the one Jewish nation in the world and don't believe it should exist, and refuse to read history books on the matter to make up an informed decision on my own, preferring to get my news from hate sources, but I don't hate Jews! I believe in every conspiracy theory out there and think Mossad kills its own people, but I don't hate Jews! I am friends (were friends) with you, so how can I hate Jews, despite calling for the ellimination of the one Jewish state in the world and posting hate and lies on my site! How dare you accuse me of hating Jews!"

Correct me if I am wrong in any of that, but that is how I see the situation.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

Anonymous @02:58:35 PM:

Of course it's that way!! I mean come on, 8 of them are equal 500 Americans (of all people), and one million arabs are not worth one of their fingernails. They are apparently the supreme, powerful, noble, over-the-law humans that are to be believed in all occasions and never to be held for trial, ever. And we stand under them and accept everything we do to us. That's the new world order. And we are happy about it, we inferior beings..

(Sarcasm over, it's sickening, isn't it..)

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

@disaffected youth:

We really DON'T hate Jews. My parents have Jewish friends, so do I. And Jews are human beings, just like us. But when the Government of the only Jewish state on the planet is behaving in such an atrocious way, then no wonder we have to hate it. Or are you seriously saying that because it's the only Jewish state in the world means that nobody has the right to put it's policy into question? Just like Ariel Sharon said before? That's putting them into the category of the perfect super-human, just for being the _only_ one of their type. And that's wrong.
Add to that that we are against ANY atrocious government, no matter what kind of state it's ruling, and no matter what religion (or non-religion) it adhers to. Do you think I like my own Egyptian government? Hell no, I hate it as well, for many many reasons.

There is a vast difference between hating a Jew, and hating the current Zionist policy. Take my word for it.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

disaffecte youth, aka, Miss R,

re: your accusations that I am anti-semitic - you are wrong.

re: the link to the dead Israeli in a SEALED body bag - I already explained that, under the circumstances, Peres having declared that 'deception in the name of self-defense is not immoral', I am obliged to require further evidence to substantiate Israeli assertions that the body bag indeed contains the body of an Israeli killed from Hizbuallah attack, July 16, 2006, in the city of Haifa.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

qrswave:

Whatever. Nothing will satisfy you. You are a non-thinker who refuses to actually read BOOKS and yet considers yourself an expert enough on the Middle East to post hateful speculation that somehow Israel is killing its own people, or engaging in a "false flag" operation. Israel doesn't engage in the sort of masturbatory images of dead bodies that the Palestinians engage in. They don't get their jones off by taking gory images of dead bodies. They actually have some respect for the dead. Of course, you use that against them.

READ A BOOK. EDUCATE YOURSELF. A brain is a terrible thing to waste, and right now, you are wasting away your brain on hate.

I have to repeat this over and over and over again.

Read a book. Learn the history of the region. Read more than one book, while you are at it. Go to more sources than the disgusting "What Didn't Really Happen" site.

As an example. You will post disgusting and hate-filled "speculation" about 9/11 as a falsehood, and then not learn the science behind it. If you are going to post such tripe, then at least educate yourself on the science of it. Otherwise, you are engaging in non-thinking conspiracy theory speculation.

The same applies here. Read a book. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK.

Let me be a bit more clear.

READ A BOOK.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

...........................Perhaps we should ALL re-read the book:.............................






The Protocols of the Elders of Zion








If anyone wants a digital copy, I have one to distribute!


Cheers!

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am waiting for qrswave to say "How dare you say the Protocols of Zion" are fact." Or "how dare you post such tripe on this site."

But she won't. She will likely say nothing.

Oh right "I don't hate Jews. How dare you accuse me of antisemitism!"

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Vietnamese Ever Called Me A Nigger
Mohammed Ali is thought to have said the title of this post. Unfortunately as great as this soundbite is, it was likely never said publicly, on record*. However it is possible he may have said it privately. It was well known to the Boomers at the time but forgotten to Generation X and the Echo that Cassius Clay refused millitary service. He risked his career and everything he had in order to stand up for what he believed in. He knew the difference between two men who agree to hit each other with padded mittens and going to the other side of the world to kill strangers. What Ali probably said was this:

Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.

Which he said in Redemption Song: Muhammad Ali and the Spirit of the Sixties (1999) by Mike Marqusee

In light of all the bloodshed going on in Lebanon this past weekend and all the mutual defense pacts we and other nations hold with each other, here is a link that may come in handy in the very near future.

As for me, I'm medically unfit for combat. Bad eyes, ankles and teeth. I'm severly anemic and to top it all off... the amphetamines or "go pills" they give to combat troops put me to sleep. So yeah, maybe I'm a pussy. I'd rather be home with my family then out pillaging people I know aren't doing me any harm.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miss R,

As for The Protocols of the Elders of Zion


This is been PROVEN and DEMONSTRATED OVER THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS to be FACT.

Each day they prove it.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, was translated by someone who had "inside" access. Read it for yourself. You'll be amazed at how the War of Agression Against the People of Vietnam, War against the People of Korea, War against all the countries in Latin America, Africa, Exploitation of African Slaves, the Cold war, Iraq War I & II & III, Afghanistan, and Palestine --------------------------- These all had "Jewish" ASHKENAZIS as their orchestrator, as their leader, as their financier, as the "master mind" ............. Fuck you Henry Kissinger, FUCK YOU!!! And may you burn in the hell you created, you mass murderer of 8 MILLION VIETNAMES and MILLIONS OF CAMBODIANS, LAOS, KOREANS -------------------------- Fuck your cluster bomb. And Fuck your AGENT ORANGE ------------------------ Fuck you Henry Kissinger!







............. And Fuck You too Miss R, for supporting such MASS GENOCIDE against innocent people. You supported and continue to blindly support a Racist Regime that murdered my relatives and family ...............

Fuck you Miss R!!!

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And one more thing Miss R,





............................. Fuck your RACIST WHITE SUPREMACY .......................







That's white, fuck all those white Ashenazi. I know other "white" (i.e. Europeans) feelings aren't hurt, because although they are also "white", they a fed up after centuries and millenia of being fucked by you guys ---------- they feel the same way, as we do in Latin America, as we do in Africa, as we do in Asia, as we do in the Middle East.

We in Europe feel the same way!!!

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger nes718 said...

Let me be a bit more clear.

READ A BOOK.


It's a fact that mostly all major publishing houses fell under Zionist control long ago. I'm with Miss R. Read the Protocols before you read anything else because everything else is disinformation from the Zionist oligarchs and is why the world is where it’s at today.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been following the current events happening over the last several days with some interest. While I am not a believer in most of the Zionist prophecy fulfilling/cult of control thing, the fact of the matter is that nations have faked media and supplied messages in the past to achieve policy goals and gain influence with other nations(sudetenland, anyone?).

At the moment my skepticism of israeli media is even lower than that of american mainstream. I've caught some media reports about the attack on the israeli warship using blatant lies about what was used to attack the ship. Having caught one lie, that just reinforced my skepticism at this point.

So at this point I find myself agreeing with the writer of this point. A sealed body bag does not equate to a dead victim of yet another round of the pointless violence that seem to make a go round every few years. Plz prove me wrong diss. youth and show me just one semi-recognizable picture of a dead israeli and I will congratulate you on being right.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger nes718 said...

Oh right "I don't hate Jews. How dare you accuse me of antisemitism!"

If you read through the Protocols, what is apparent is that Jews for the most part are not responsible for them. But the methodology to "world takeover" fits to a tee what has really occurred, Globalization. Jews are implicated in the plot, but I think the true authors were not Jews or not Jews anymore but Masonic or Satanists. Everyone should read the protocols and really understand how they parallel Orwell and how strikingly similar real history has progressed since their uncovering nearly 100 years ago.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently the 'disgusting' What Really Happened site keeps posting the ugly fact that the captured Israeli soldiers in Lebanon were caught after crossing over the border into Lebanon. I guess you can read books all you want, so long as facts that upset your myopic world view don't interfere.

Here's my take: if Torah true Jews like the Neuturei Karta folks can label the secular socialist state of Israel 'apostate,' they certainly have grounds to say so. When someone of Jewish heritage like myself publicly says the policies of Israel's government are revolting, they're not being anti-semitic; they're telling the truth.

G-d's covenant with Israel was conditional upon their following all of his commandments; he gave the Israelites Canaan not because they were a good people, but because he used them to punish the evil Canaanites. Ask yourself how the ongoing occupation upholds ANY of those commandments.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey disaffected youth,

You used the code word "conspiracy theory." That's interesting because that's the usual term neocon and zionist apologists use to discredit any notion that contradicts their obtuse world view. What does that tell me? You're a zionist lackey. Non thinker.

What I see is that Israel is ALWAYS RIGHT and the rest of the world wrong when it involves any action zionists take in the Middle East. I won't give you a discourse on history because that is well documented.

But you know something, Israel has big problems because the world (excluding the US and UK) despises the "shitty little country" and knows that the Middle East is messed up because of it. Israeli leadership has no credibility in the world. Speaking of lies!

To compound Israel's problems, so many Americans are waking up to the zionist yoke on the US and are ready to react. Keep it up and you'll see zionists tarred and feathered on the streets. That will be a sight to see. You may be one of them.

Armed and ready

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

As I believe that everybody deserves a good Government, I'm eagerly waiting for the day where the Zionist regime is toppled and another Government appointed that fairly restores peace to the area, granting the Israeli people a chance to live on peacefully with their Palestinian neighbors. I know it might not happen any time soon, but seeing the Zionists tarred and feathered on the streets is just what I need right now.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here you go dizzyfected youth, read this:



http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a bloody damn about any Israeli fatalities, real or imagined, now that half of Lebanon has been decimated by these jackals, and internationally forbidden chemical weapons of mass destruction are being used at random on Lebanese women and children who have no connection whatsoever to Hezbollah. These animals should be allowed to completely finish walling themselves in from real suffering humanity and then be allowed to completely suffocate on their very own poison gas. Maybe then the Hollow Cost will finally be real, after all.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

as an orthodox Jew I am disgusted by israel's actions. First off, we were never gassed or put in death camps in WW2. That is a myth perputated by some people of my faith at the time, to take land. Remember when the Christians used to kill us in europe, we would hide in the Islamic countries. Why would the germans kill us anyways when we could be worked, dont ever for a moment believe we were killed in gas chambers ect. We stole that land and should return it, and apologize. I am very sorry people from my religion tries to control countries and create myths........please forgive us, not all us Jews like israel, some of us see it as the criminal organization it is.....peace

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

@Anonymous (Orthodox Jew):

Nobody is saying that all Jews are like that. We are very aware that this is only a small group of people who are doing this crap and that there are loads of Jews that are ashamed of that, just as there are many many muslims who oppose the acts of violence committed by the minority.
Jews are human beings, and human beings are my friends, except when they misbehave. Though it wasn't really necessary, I appreciate your apology very much =)

Peace my friend

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "Orthodox" And may peace be unto you, also, for this day you have found redemption. And being forgiven, you can still be "Orthodox" and Christian as well, if you ever truly want to. But, and I'm sorry, first that filthy book of talmud has to go.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with ya anonymous and sphinx. Folks should take a look at the SHIT list at

www.masada2000.org/shit-list.html

Many, many Jews listed for the crime of not keeping quiet. Plenty of raw hate on display.

Interesting that David Cole isn't even listed.

In Findley's book They Dare to Speak Out he details how Jews are prevented from voicing their opinions by the Israel lobby.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read a book. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK. READ A BOOK.

Thans for the tip. Just finished Norman Finklestein's Beyond Chutzpah. If you weren't disgusted by Israel's actions before, you're sure to be repulsed after this fine read.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The armageddon that is approaching reflects the Protocols of the Neocon Elders.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Read a book. Learn the history of the region. Read more than one book, while you are at it".

Start with the Bible, which shows the beginning of 4000 years of Jewish racism, of a God who was the God of the Israelites (and only the Israelites), claimed that they were the "chosen people" (nice thing for one race to write about itself, no?), set down religious law prohibiting Jews from marrying non-Jews (ironically a likely source of Nazi blood hygiene theories), and documented an endless series of battles with their neighbors (sound familiar?), ending with the murder of the males of that country/city, the rape and enslavement of the women. Has anything really changed? Modern day Israel has codified racism, the last true apartheid society on the planet and you want to talk about the nobility of your people because the supposedly don't show photos of dead bodies? Your entire culture is based on the exhibition of dead bodies/death as any tourist traveling there soon finds out. If you actually want to make headway with your ridiculous argument then the last thing you should be doing is encouraging people to educate themselves about the Middle-East. The theft of the land from it's original inhabitants by people who have no genetic connection to those that lived there 2000 years ago becomes more absurd with every page of history one reads...yes, by all means READ A BOOK and watch your outrage grow!

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't read too much into press photographs either; of course there's a propaganda element involved here: for every mangled lebanese corpse, the Hizbullah resistance knows it adds to their support/sympathy pool; for every dead mangled israeli shown, the israeli government is well aware that its popularity will go down as being unable to defend its people. It got nothing to do with conspiracy, it's just common sense. Please, as humans, we can rise above petty hatred, and just kill each other off with dignity. Death is going to happen anyway, would'nt you rather it came without the cheers and catcalls of a football crowd? Respect the fallen, and try to better the world instead of spewing medieval hate litterature(protocols).

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

"lurk" said:

"Please, as humans, we can rise above petty hatred, and just kill each other off with dignity."

You're psychotic.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plan For Liberation Most Rational
(Mighty Thor, 17 July 06)

Yes, but remember, to Jews TRUTH IS HATE, as all criminals naturally hate the truth accusing them. That's what Judaism is-- worship of a killer war-God insanely obsessed w. his "chosen" whore, Jews. God is Jew's attack-dog, God worshipping Jews.

But more abstractly for cultural, dramatic, and thematic purposes it is the cyclic opposition of Judaic-subjective versus Western objective. Jews dominate Western hubris in unnatural subjectivism, always disguised in form of moralism and heresy complex-matrix, foundation then for conspiracy theory.

Think of it: once u control truth, a la' Orwell, u can kill and murder and call it "self-defense"--very clever how Jews manage then to control the mass corporate "Jews-media," indeed (and for just one example, Jews utmost gangsters, frauds, conspirators, and monopolists). But this absolute oligarchal fascist monopoly, founded in that basic subjectivism, is inexorably exposed by free internet. Jews must inevitably strike internet sooner or later.

For information and freedom will always threaten to destroy the Judeo-oligarchal power; ck TheNewAmerican.com for good expo on the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and various conspiracies, featuring no less than destruction of national sovereignty of USA, for one mere example, in favor of United Nations (UN) world government.

Thus we see the way conspiracy theory is founded--upon the heretical tendencies and general sinful nature of humanity, alas.

ALL GENTILES MUST UNITE IN ANTISEMITISM against Judeo-oligarchs, CFR, and their dupes the heretical "Judeo-Christians" (JCs), their brainless "allies" and accomplices in the USA, unfortunately. JCs aren't total traitors as they're dupes--they need INFORMATION quite badly: Christianity is necessarily antisemitic, a slight clue these JCs gotta "get."

As for tragic nature of reality--yes, it's true, but we're addicted (to life) nonetheless, and we need a plan which then only requires scientific analysis. Jews are sublime subjectivists, collectivists, hysterics, narcissists, etc.; they take advantage of self-deceived and hubristic gentiles who are now excess population which Jews now harvest, biologically keeping humanity fm being too "over-populated." Jews are disease, their mentality succeeding during sickness of gentiles hubris.

CONCLUSION: Such is Spenglerian "Decline of the West" since time of Napoleon at least (modern era). Thus Judaic banking arose and became dominant, the conqueror, truly. As we of West must continue to suffer, so unfortunately still, at least we can be informed for the successful effort of liberation as it must come, Jew parasite finally burning itself out through the herd of humanity. Thus we journalists observantly keep vigil, honesty basis of any possible plan--objectivity and rule-of-law. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lurk, I'm down wit cha on the medieval hate literature. I haven't read them Protocols.

I did read The Report from Iron Mountain which seemed to make a lot of sense until the authorities told me it was a hoax.

Benjamin Freedman's speech seemed merit consideration until my betters explained it was a hoax as well (www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html)

I was troubled and concered after reading Walter White's interview with Harold Rosenthal until I was told by the TV is was also a hoax
(www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rosenthal.html)

Henry Ford thought there was a conspiracy, but he was hoaxing I guess.

It sure is simpler now that I know not to read on my own.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not about hoaxes or conspiracies, it's about presenting a perspective. I have no doubt people who wrote things about jewish involvement in world affair believed they found irrefutable proof of their assertions. Even today, for example, I can demonstrate pro-israeli bias in canadian media (mostly in global/national post), but what about it? It's editor is israeli so of course he's going to be biased toward Israel. But that does'nt mean that we're all puppets slaves to the system. If you don't like the money system the bankers put in place, go around it, or use it with disdain, as a necessary evil. The majority always has a choice; propaganda works better when it goes in the direction of it's target's desires.
qrswave: I am not psychotic. Well maybe. But I only wanted to go beyond the whole Bad Jews piece. Humans will kill each other off, that's a fact. Watch animal planet, you'll see we are truly part of the animal kingdom in that; but it could be so much better, with a bit more consideration. I think Nicolas Berg's father had it, when he said "
I am sure, knowing my son, that somewhere during their association with him these men became aware of what an extraordinary man my son was. I take comfort that when they did the awful thing they did, they weren't quite as in to it as they might have been. I am sure that they came to admire him.

I am sure that the one who wielded the knife felt Nick's breath on his hand and knew that he had a real human being there. I am sure that the others looked into my son's eyes and got at least a glimmer of what the rest of the world sees. And I am sure that these murderers, for just a brief moment, did not like what they were doing.

George Bush never looked into my son's eyes. George Bush doesn't know my son, and he is the worse for it."
This is humanity. There will always be death and murder, it is our way, but at least lets try to do it in a civilised manner.

 
At Monday, July 17, 2006, Blogger The Sphinx said...

Mighty Thor, don't put all the Jews in the same basket. Yes, we have one common enemy, the Zionist regime, but there are loads of good Jewish people who are very much anti-Zionism. And they're just human beings like you and me.

I can't stand anybody put all Muslims under the label of "savage terrorists", so I can't allow myself to do the same to others.
Thanks

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your insight Michael Price,

One thing we need to keep in mind, is that these Zionists don't care for "non-jew" but they VERY MUCH FEAR FOR THEMSELVES. That is the worst kind of cowardice.

And that is the only way, and the best way to stop their WAVES OF GENOCIDE. Target them, scare them, KNOW WHERE THEY HIDE.

They hide in uderground "palaces", literally caverns extremely large for being underground. These are located mostly (almost exclusively) in EUROPE and the USA. In Europe, the most dense location is in Germany, around Swiss, and England (near London in particular). In the USA, it is in the 3 localities where the highest concentration of Ashkenazi "jews" congregate --- LA (Hollywood), Miami (aka the infamous "miami mafia" is "jewish"), and NEW YORK. Not just the city of NY but the State as well. A few in Israel --- not "as much" as you would think, since they know that'll be the "sacrifical lamb" to forsee their "prophecy" to come true. The large underground drilling machines have been working overtime, for much of the last 4 to 5 DECADES.

The best method to locate them would be Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) and Seismics (3D). Airborne Gravity and Magnetic surveys are less precise and accurate, due to the nature of physical superposition.

However, state-of-the-art technology is not absolutely required. Basic reconnaisance, observations, and note-taking is equally effective. Observe where the "rich" people live, congregate, and when the "car or person suddenly vanishes".....

Share your intelligence with others. This is the only way to put a stop to their 'worldly perversions'. They may not care if you or I suffer --- but they'll crack and crumble under adversity. That is the "kind" of person they are -- weak, pathetic, and stupid. Being rich and "powerful" doesn't mean much, especially when you can "trust" no one because of who you are....

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all fine and dandy...
But isn't the real question "How to stop this insanity?" Conspiracy Theory, or not... Global Plan, or not... Regardless of your personal feelings, and regardless of which side of the fence one may reside... the only way out of this is to simply stop playing the game.

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This is all fine and dandy...
But isn't the real question "How to stop this insanity?" Conspiracy Theory, or not... Global Plan, or not... Regardless of your personal feelings, and regardless of which side of the fence one may reside... the only way out of this is to simply stop playing the game.

Tue Jul 18, 03:51:35 AM EDT








>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rothschild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Conspiracy Theories" are worlds used by "mainstream media" to 'discredit' people who think. Young man, you don't have the Background in science, or physics to call anybody a 'conspiracy theorist'. LOL LOL LOL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 
At Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In times of need, two things are most useful:




1) Survival skills

2) Knowledge of Science (physics in particular) and Computers

 
At Monday, July 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL FUCKING SAND NIGGERS MUST FUCKING HANG.

 

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