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War Crimes - the case against Israel

AMNESTY International has accused Israel of war crimes, saying it broke international law by deliberately destroying Lebanon's civilian infrastructure during its war with Hezbollah guerrillas.

The human rights organisation said the pattern and scope of the Israeli attacks, the high number of civilian casualties, widespread damage and statements by Israeli officials "indicate that such destruction was deliberate and part of a military strategy, rather than 'collateral damage'."

Amnesty, whose delegates monitored the fighting, said Israel violated international laws banning direct attacks on civilians and barring indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks.

"The scale of the destruction was just extraordinary," said Amnesty researcher Donatella Rovera, who visited Lebanon during the war and co-authored the report.

"There is clear evidence of disproportionate and indiscriminate attacks."

The group urged the United Nations to look into whether both combatants, Israel and Hezbollah, broke international law.
What's there to look into? Anyone with eyes can see that Israel is guilty of war crimes.

Even Dan Gillerman, Israel's Ambassador to the UN, admits that Israel used disproportionate force.

Is Hizbullah also guilty? Possibly, though I doubt it. The statement seems calculated more to deflect accusations of bias than to impart a suggestion of guilt.

And Amnesty is not alone.

Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey at Pravda outlines the case against Israel in detail:
The State of Israel is hereby accused of committing War Crimes in the conflict with Hezbollah IN Lebanon (July 12th to August 12th 2006). We present and document four counts where the Geneva Convention has been seriously breached.

Presenting an article of this type involves running a gauntlet of death threats and hacking attacks, which appear on cue normally two to three days after the document is published. However, this is not an opinion article, neither is it an unwarranted attack borne through hatred. It is objective and it is fact: The case against Israel.

IV, Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12th August 1949, Part I General Provisions, Article 3 states:

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons: (a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

Article 10: The provisions of the present Convention constitute no obstacle to the humanitarian activities which the International Committee of the Red Cross or any other impartial humanitarian organization may, subject to the consent of the Parties to the conflict concerned, undertake for the protection of civilian persons and for their relief.

Part II. General Protection of Populations Against Certain Consequences of War

Article 18: Civilian hospitals organized to give care to the wounded and sick, the infirm and maternity cases, may in no circumstances be the object of attack but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.

Article 24: The Parties to the conflict shall take the necessary measures to ensure that children under fifteen, who are orphaned or are separated from their families as a result of the war, are not left to their own resources, and that their maintenance, the exercise of their religion and their education are facilitated in all circumstances. Their education shall, as far as possible, be entrusted to persons of a similar cultural tradition.
Count 1: Breach of Part I, Art. 3.1 (a)

In attacking civilians indiscriminately by deploying munitions against their homes, by strafing civilian vehicles and by deploying cluster bombs near hospitals, the Israeli Armed Forces did not provide humane treatment for persons not taking part in hostilities. The purposeful deployment of munitions against civilian structures, the most blatant of which was the attack on the Beirut power station, constituting an act of environmental terrorism, occasioned violence to life and person and acts of murder.

Count 2: Breach of Part I, Art. 10

Humanitarian agencies were not free to circulate because the IDF refused to respect humanitarian corridors, apart from which munitions were deployed against hospitals and even ambulances and funerals were fired on.

Count 3: Breach of Part II, Art. 18

Deploying cluster munitions against hospitals is in flagrant violation of this article

Count 4: Breach of Part II, Art. 24

Not only were no measures taken, the children in question were slaughtered in their homes.
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As we all know, presenting legal cases in this day and age against certain states is an academic exercise because the execution of the law is made under the current New World Order by those who break it. (cf. Case of Slobodan Milosevic, illegally kidnapped and detained before his death under illegal custody after the proper provisions to guarantee his health were disregarded). In short, international law has been hijacked by a clique of criminal states who use and abuse international norms as they wish, the epitome of the unilateralist approach.
He convinced me. What do you think?


At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger Daniel said...

Israel's War Crimes?
You hypocrites!!!!!!

What about hizbollah starting the war by lunching on the first day rockets on civilians and kidnapping 2 soldiers and murdering another 5?
those soldiers were inside the borders of Israel!!!!!

what about hizbollah AIMING INTENTIOLLY on civilans and hiding in a hospital??? how come you didn't mention that???

for one month all they did was aiming at cities which had nothing to do with the war? is that not a war crime?

The IDF has only the intention of killing Hizbollah. NEVER HAS A SOLDIER AIMED ON A CIVILAN! on the contrary, there were stories of soldeirs helping out and bringin Lebanon Citizens to Israeli hospitals!

have you heard of such a thing on the other side??

I wish that who ever wrote this article live for a year in a place where every month one rocket is being lunched to. that what the Hizbollah used to do before the war... maybe then he wouldn't accuse Israel of War Crimes...

--------H Y P O C R I T E----------

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger Gut Feeling said...

You're joking aren't you, Daniel?

"What about hizbollah starting the war by lunching on the first day rockets on civilians and kidnapping 2 soldiers and murdering another 5?
those soldiers were inside the borders of Israel!!!!!"

- ummm, by some reports, they captured the soldiers INSIDE Lebanese territory. Killing of soldiers is also a lot different to killing *BABIES*. Hezbollah also waited for TWO DAYS before 'returning fire' to Israel after Israel bombed the international airport, roads, bridges, service stations, electrity stations, houses, other infrastructure, oh and about 120 civilians.

"what about hizbollah AIMING INTENTIOLLY on civilans and hiding in a hospital???"

- from all (non-Israeli or US) accounts they were aiming at MILITARY TARGETS, and Israel were surprised to find they knew where some of their more sensitive locations were. Also they are R-O-C-K-E-T-S, not *LASER-GUIDED* M-I-S-S-I-L-E-S, so how are they going to be accurate you moron? Hezbollah has denied being in the hospital, only Israel CLAIMED that. And Hezbollah have a much better record of telling the *TRUTH* than Israel, the biggest liars on the face of the Earth!

"for one month all they did was aiming at cities which had nothing to do with the war? is that not a war crime? "

- one word: BULLSHIT!

"The IDF has only the intention of killing Hizbollah. NEVER HAS A SOLDIER AIMED ON A CIVILAN! on the contrary, there were stories of soldeirs helping out and bringin Lebanon Citizens to Israeli hospitals! "

- HAHAHAHA!!! You're making me laugh now! Qana 1996? The two Red Cross ambulances with "laser guided" missiles right through the middle of the red cross on the roof of the ambualnces? (was that some kind of sick joke by whoever targetted the missle?) Any week in Palestine? Israeli peaceful demonstrators? Running over unarmed protesters with bulldozers? Bombing the one remaining bridge between Lebanon and Syria just the other day, while cars were crossing it, killing 12? Active or passive complicity in 9/11? Are you seriously this deluded, or are you just another group of the "5000" active on the internet?

"I wish that who ever wrote this article live for a year in a place where every month one rocket is being lunched to. that what the Hizbollah used to do before the war... maybe then he wouldn't accuse Israel of War Crimes..."

- rockets every day? I doubt it. Every day Israel flew reconnaisance missions and most days of the week broke the sound barrier over Lebanon, violating their airspace, they enter Lebanese territory and kidnap people, and even violated the UN ceasefire within a few days. Lying, snake-like evil bastards. The time for the reckoning of Israel's twisted lies has come my friend.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger pakisdanny said...

gut feeling, you are way out of control.

your blind ignorance is nauseating. you know very well what the facts are but, like the rest of the hypocritical Arab world, you take images and information out of context to fuel your hatred.

Israel's 'laser' guided missiles helped save 1000's of lives that Hezbollah but in jeapardy as human shields. Israel fired upon launching sites, not civilians. And Hezbollah doesn't wear unifoms, they dress in civilian clothes.

"Lying, snake-like evil bastards."

Its obvious your words don't come from the true facts, but from a warrantless deep rooted hatred for a group of people, very similar to the Nazi's in Germany.

You make me sick, and its people ignorant people like you that make the world a disgusting place.

What a fool. Hezbollah holds Lebanese people as hostage, puts them in harms way to win the Media war, making Israel look like an indiscriminate killing maching, and you, like many other shallow-minded biggots fall right into their propaganda trap.

Congratulations to your blind stupidity.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger lesliemai said...

since the zionist terrorists like to come to steal our lands/resources and daily commit war crimes in our lands, perhaps they should face the sharia courts. this could be televised for the world to see.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...

Dear Gut Feeling.

This Story Book that started off with an attack by Hezbollah on Israel that started this war was well designed and pre-meditated by Hezbollah.

The kidnapping of 2 Israeli soldiers and killings of 8 others was just the last straw in a long
story book that started 6 years ago when Israel left Lebanon at its own initiative to bring
peace to the region. That did not stop Hezbollah, 3 months after Israel left, Hezbollah
kidnapped and killed 3 soldiers, and several months later they kidnapped an Israeli citizen to
start off with. If you start to read the book carefully you will find that Islam is incubating
hatred using propagandist lies against Israel threw religious interpretation, media and its
education system to its children starting at an early age. This incubation hatred is a privilege
that can be infested only in countries that don't have true freedom of speech.

No real defense can be humane. Israel must defend itself as effectively humanely as possible. Lebanon must take responsibility for the terror that is being inflicted from within its boarders

Israel is in pain and morns every civilian casualty on the Lebanon side while Hezbollah and Hezbollah supporters Hurray every civilian casualty on the Israeli side.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger Parlicoot said...

I humbly suggest that some posters to this blog arrived here via GIYUS and so will swear black is white in their defence of Israel.

The prompt to "make your comments to even the picture" is a threat if ever I heard one.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger ian jaffe said...

Hizballah is guilty of war crimes by deliberately discriminating between civilain populations on the basis of race.. religion or faith (article 3(1) of the Geneva Convention. This breach of the Convention was demonstrated by Hassan Nasrallas apology for murdering two Israeli Arab children in the Israeli town of Nazareth - the obvious implication being that no apolgy was due for Israeli Jews being murdered.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger lesliemai said...

if you dont like the resistance perhaps the zionist terrorist baby killers should end the occupation of our lands and go back to russia/germany/poland. now the whole world clearly see how the zionist killing machine works, its fabrications, and deceptions.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...

Dear lesliemai.

"steal our lands/resources and daily commit war crimes in our lands"

What lands did we steal? Israel is a tiny little coutry in the center of what is 98% controled by muslim countries. This country belonged to the Jews over 1000 years before Islam was even invented. So we didnt steal it. All the lands that were aquiered in Israel after 1948 were aquired by wars instigated by the neigboring Islamic Countries. Israel Was willing to give back over 97% of these lands but were refused by Syria and The Palestinians.

Daily War crimes? Israel Has been under Daily Terrorist attacks Since Ever, And is only trying to defend itself. Israel Does not want any other lands. Israel only wants Peace.

You are one of the many that have been brain washed. It is your destiny to look for the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdhRpyhhgfs&mode=related &search=Wafa


At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger lesliemai said...

98% is muslim and yet you choose to come here to make a country, kick people off the land, and commite genocide against arabs. you said give back, and the reason you said that is because even you know the zionists stole our lands, please go back to russia/poland/germany. if you truely want peace end the brutal occupation now!

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger srknl said...

Oh, the Zionist lovers and "anti-muslimites" have found this website and are bombarding this blog with their side of the story.

Well, the thing is they have their side of the story and we have ours, they have their perception of truth and we have ours. They have their facts and we have ours. They will believe in what they want to believe and we in what we want to believe and those are 2 totally different beliefs and points of views and facts.

The sad thing is this really shows there is no chance of peace cause everyone feels agrieved and wants to take revenge or to put it politically correctly "have the right to defend themselves".

The sad thing is the muslims are technologically and PR wise and unfortunately unity wise weaker so I guess we will have to take the beating for now, both physically and on our image.

No hope and no chance of peace ... SAD !!!

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...


You are being childish, You are using the same propagandist methods as your superiors. "Giving back" was in the context of the lands we acquired during the wars that were inflicted on Israel that were instigated by the Islamic neighboring countries attacking Israel and trying to exterminate it. Israel has offered these lands back for peace but have been denied except for Jordan and Egypt, Egypt were not willing to take their own land back. Gaza belonged to Egypt and Egypt did not want it back!!! Ask yourself why?
Again Israel belonged to the Jews long before any of the 98% Muslims set foot in this area.

But all of this still doesn't change the fact that you can not take 6 million Jews that live here and deport them back to their countries. Do you know that a large amount of these Jews came from Islamic Countries as well as Poland/Russia/Germany and don't have any rights to go back there.
We must deal with the situation with the facts at hand.
6 million Jews are here to stay and so are the Palestinians and the other Islamic Countries. Lets first announce that these are the facts that can not be changed.
This is the first step towards Peace. The second step is for the Islamic countries to stop preaching hatred and implementing terror.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...


You are not the only one taking a beating. Israel Has been taking Daily beetings for years, hundreds of civilians have been killed and thousands wounded.

Every person has a right to believe in what s/he wants to as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else.

To start a peace process you should start with what you agree on, and not what you disagree about.

If it is agree-able that there is no other option for the Jews except for Israel.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger UNITE HUMANITY said...


At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger physicsandchem said...

The attack in which two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped WAS across an International Border (the border between Lebanon and Israel). If Lebanon does not try to physically stop such attacks, what do you expect Israel to do?
One UN soldier emailed his former commander that Hezbollah were firing on Israelis from within a few meters of the UN position. In pictures, one sees the Hezbollah flag close to the UN flag.
There are several videos showing Hezbollah launching rockets near civilian homes and then taking shelter in civilian homes.
Are these War Crimes? If not, why not?
What do you expect Israel to do in these circumstances?

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger jpoposauro said...

Daniel, is this a bad joke????

If you want to talk about agreement breaches and war crimes:

- Hezbollah was ordered to be disarmed by the U.N. since 2000, they didn't, in fact they got more weapons and made bunkers. Koffee Annan wasn't outraged, I wonder why???
- Hezbollah commited a war crime, the fighters were dressed as civilians and NOT AS SOLDIERS. SANCTION.
- Hezbollah fired Katyusha rockets from civilian areas and hided this weapons in civilian areas. SANCTION.
- Hezbollah has admitted kidnapping and provoking Israel for years by atacking border Israeli guards. THE WORLD IS BLIND, DEAF and MUTE!!
- Hezbollah has admitted they fight by terrorism means. NOTHING?
-Hezbollah Katyusha rockets were aimed at israeli civilians and to kill israeli civilians. Israel used precision guided rockets, fired at areas were Katyusha rockets were being fired, and they have to offer apologies???


What does AMNESTY have to say about this issues???

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

ariel975 said:

You are being childish, You are using the same propagandist methods as your superiors.

Superiors? Who are our superiors?

Again Israel belonged to the Jews long before any of the 98% Muslims set foot in this area.

That is absurd but the fact that many Israelis believe that and believe they have a moral and spiritual right to this land, based on that afore mentioned "superiority" simply shows Arabs that they have good reason to feel threatened. We are well aware of the exact dimensions of the mythical "Greater Israel" that you try to delude us all into thinking is yours.

It is even more absurd to claim Israel by birthright because most of the Jews in control of Israel now are reform Jews of European descent. They are not even Hebrews. So give us a break with this pack of distortions and lies.

As for Gaza, Israel never gave back a damn thing. Israel still occupies and controls all of Gaza and the West Bank and commits atrocities on those lands on a daily basis. These events are undisputed facts. Are these also some religious priviledge based on your superiority?

We must deal with the situation with the facts at hand.
6 million Jews are here to stay and so are the Palestinians and the other Islamic Countries.
This is the first step towards Peace. The second step is for the Islamic countries to stop preaching hatred and implementing terror.

I'm down with the first one but the second is yet another absurd distortion. You are claiming that Israel and the US are not responisble for preaching hatred and implementing terror? Ridiculous. See. You are kidding yourself if you think there can ever be peace without the truth coming out. That truth is that Israel must take responsibility for it's actions and end it's oppression and occupations of lands that DO NOT belong to them.

Waiting for the Islamic world to agree to your lies about them and allow themselves to be enslaved by that lie is insane. They will not stop fighting because death is preferable to giving in to the Israelites insane world of a superior Jew and a worthless and enslaved Goyim who line up for slaughter and injustice without resistence. Fuck that.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

What do you expect Israel to do in these circumstances?

Have a temper tantrum and slaughter thousands of innocent people. Kill babies with phosphorus weapons, turn a million people into refugees. That's the kind of atrocity that I expect from Israel.

Israel illegally crosses the border into Lebanon and commits murder, theft and sabotage on a daily basis. Those two so called "kidnapped" soldiers did not begin this conflict. Israel did.

Israel does not want peace. It wants pieces.

There is no excuse for the crimes of Israel, no excuse for it's brutal occupation of Palestine, no excuse for it's destruction of Lebanon. All the rhetoric in the world won't change that. Israel is a racist facist apartheid state. There is certain proof of this.

People have the moral and legal right to resist occupation and the illegal acts of the occupying force.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger kfrebo said...

My suggestion to all is, stop fighting on this website. Muslims clearly have their own logic and rational thought processes. So does the Western world (Israel included). One problem is these views of logic and rational thought is so far different any negotiation, much less intelligent conversation, is essentially impossible. The other problem is the Muslim view of logic and thought process hasn't advanced for thousands of years; they are still living so far in the past it will take thousands of years for them just to advance to the "modern" thought processes of the ancient Roman empire (which incidentally fell, also).

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

The other problem is the Muslim view of logic and thought process hasn't advanced for thousands of years; they are still living so far in the past it will take thousands of years for them just to advance to the "modern" thought processes of the ancient Roman empire (which incidentally fell, also).

This is hilarious. This kind of racism is quite ignorant. I'm not a Muslim btw. I am Lebanese American and highly educated in American and British universities and most of the people you are discussing with are Americans, some of them lawyers.

That said, Muslim Arabs understand the western mind far better than we will ever understand their world. That is why they can't be defeated and enslaved like the rest of the world has been. They have power. So who is really superior in intellect and whose logic and thought process is less advanced? Your bigotry and self worship blinds you to the intelligence and strength of spirit of these amazing people. They still have their dignitity and a connection to the earth that you will never comprehend and that you will never conquer.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

I also notice how these Israeli apologists and trolls never address the point that refute their weak arguments. They ignore all these points because they can't refute them. They know they are here to lie and obfuscate. In response to intelligent discourse they just publish more bigoted insults and baiting material and think we get mad instead of laugh at the absurdity of it.

Face it. You won't win the internet war. The truth will out...eventually. We "primitive" "backwards" Arabs have computers and we know howto use them. Gasp!

More importantly, Arabs are not the only people who have US and Israel's number. The western world is also waking up from the Jewish media's dreamtime. It's about damn time.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger kfrebo said...

Gn, my apoligies. I see where my comments are not clear. I do not mean to combine all Muslims and Arabs into my frustration, I refer only the extremists. I truly believe there is good in all races and religions. My true hope is to live as one, and the fundamentalists do not, and will never agree. My apology is sincere.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger Spinoza said...

The owner of this blog is obviously bigoted.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger eli said...


of course you have computers. thats because you are probbly using a p-4 intel processor chip developed and manufactured in... haifa, israel. (now run fast and trash your "infidel" computer!!...)

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger Stern Gang said...

The Israeli war crimes are obvious; not only are they substantiated by the logistical and physical evidence they are also, supported by the premeditated nature of these absurd acts against civilians by the very statements made by the Israeli government during and after the war on Lebanon. Israel sought to displace Lebanese civilians and destroy Lebanon's infrastructure in order to put pressure on the civilian population and the government.

Amnesty International in its report said that it would addresss the actions taking by Hizballah in a subsequent report. There is no measure of hipocracy in examining the specific war crimes committting by Israel in light of the forthcoming analysis on Hizballah.

Israel is the premier military power in the region -- having possession of disproportionate and ultimate capablities of violence. An entire country was obliterated by the Israeli warmachine, while they've tried to frame this outrage in a context of self-defense. Israel continues to play the victim role when in fact they have always been the capable aggressor.

Did some Hizballah actions during the war contravene the conventions of legal miltary conduct? Obviously, some instances of transgression exist. Justice always involves a balancing of culpability. Since Israel utilized a disproportionate amount of violence and was in a better position to mitigate not only the level of destruction but also the escalation of violence. Therefore, Israel holds more liability.

Unfortunately, Israel is not a member of the ICC (International Criminal Court?) and the United Nations is a moot venue to seek justice precisely because the US usually, wields its veto power to shield Israel from having to meet its responsibilities and face repercussions for its crimes.

Nevertheless, Israel's war on Lebanon can and is being judged in the court of world opinion. We in the world have found Israel guilty as charged. Israel's condemnation is not limited to Arabs. Europeans, Central and South Americans as well as Asians nations have all expressed their repugnance with Israel's heavy hand in its destruction of the lives of many thousands in Lebanon. The fact that we can't look to international governmental bodies to seek redresss to Israel's crime doesn't limit our power to hold it accountable. The people of the world can begin to withdraw support from Israel by refusing to purchase its products and services. The all-powerful State of Apartheid South Africa came crashing down on similar grass- roots opposition to its racist bantustan policies. We have a precedent and a blue print to go forward.

Isreal must learn that its dominance of violence will not find it peace and only moderation can lead the way to a brighter future that dims the fires of hate on all sides.

I truly, hope that peace can somehow reign in the middle east however, I am certain there can never be any peace without justice.

At Wednesday, August 23, 2006, Blogger superslave2 said...

the jews loved Amnesty whem they helped them overthrow a white gentile nation like So. Africa....they discarded it just like the UN, M.L.K. , Nixon, Bush I, liberalism and they'll shun the neo cons within 2 years...the zion rats are already jumping off the Republican death raft...

At Thursday, August 24, 2006, Blogger flyswatter said...

Dear Ari975,

Here's a little history, written by Jews, for your edification:


And for some current intelligent commentary, there's this:


At Thursday, August 24, 2006, Blogger Sylvie said...

War Crimes
Hezbolla packed their rockets with ball bearings and sharp pieces of metal to maximise civillian casualties.
when they stored these rockets in houses they turned those houses into military targets

At Thursday, August 24, 2006, Blogger oded said...

And what about Hizballa's War Crimes ?

1. Hizballa didn't let villagers to leave their villages, and used them as human defence deliberatly that Israel will suffer from world opinion when Civilians will get hurt.
On the other hand hizballa fired rockets on Israeli towns, villages killing people without notice.

3. Israel bombarded only one part of Beirun (Dahia) Where hizballa organization is sitting.

4. Israel is not announcing day and night that It want's to destroy Lebanon or any other country. While hizballa, Iran, and Syria want to destroy Israel and say that in any occasion, and without any shame.

5. Israel has the right to defend itself, and against a Guerrila organization who hides inside villages, there is no other choise, and Hizbella should know this.

6. Hizbella claims they won the war, so why they are still going on crying about their losses ?
this is because they want to gain from all sides. They want to win, and also be misserable, and that the world will fill sorry for them

How pathetic...

At Thursday, August 24, 2006, Blogger oded said...

I read some comments saying Israel's reaction was unproportional
Well, after Israel got about 5000 missiles, day and night, hundreds of cassualties, Hundreds of houses destroied , Thousands of wood fires,
100 thousands of refugies leaving homes and staying in tents.
In no other was Israel's civilaians had suffered so much as in this war.

But there is one difference!
Israel is not going showing the destruction and on the contrary, it want's to go back, fix the destruction and go back to normal live asap.

At Thursday, August 24, 2006, Blogger srknl said...


Are you saying that Israel suffered as much as Lebanon did in this war but is not crying about it to the world like Lebanon is??

Given, I do not live in that area and am ignorant of many facts but that is something i do not and can not believe that Israel suffered just as badly as Lebanon but is not crying about it.

With most of the western mainstream media being under Zionist control and fighting the Israel and Zionist propoganda war and running the PR programme for them, I refuse to believe that they would show more death and destruction in Lebanon and not show or broadcast the Israeli destruction to let the world see that Hizbollah is causing such havoc in Israel.

The truth of the matter is that it was a totally dispropotionate war and that fact cannot be disputed.

At Friday, August 25, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...


How do you count suffering?

Most peoples eyes open only when the situation is at hand, In the last 4 weeks of the war, many innocent and not innocent people have been killed in Lebanon as well as Palestinians in Israel, but what about the rest of the time when Daily terror is sent into Israel with the Daily Kasam Rockets sent from Gaza into Israel to spread Death and terror, and suicide bombers that are apprehended and sometimes not. These issues are not seen daily on the international networks. And people forget very quickly the Hezbollah kidnappings of 2000 after Israel left Lebanon and Bus Bombings in the past years where hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians have been killed and thousands wounded.

Everybody is suffering Israel, Palestine, Lebanon.

Lets stop talking about what was and start talking about what can be, If not - What was, will be again and again...

What can be is a Palestinian Entity Accepting that Israel has no where to go and are here to stay. To preach and teach compassion and acceptance among neighbors and people who are different. This is the starting point from which peace can grow.

At Friday, August 25, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

A Palestinian Entity? What is a Palestinian Entity?

At Saturday, August 26, 2006, Blogger ari975 said...


A Palestinian Entity could be a state of Palestine as a neighbor to the state of Israel. Israel can only afford to accept a Palestinian state on terms of true undeniable security for the Israeli civilians.


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