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Arabs,Zionists and the Mideast:Razing the Iron Wall

Some time ago qrs wrote a post about whether the Hiz'b'Allah was a Mossad front or not. For some reason that post has been bouncing around in my head for some time now. That is until I came across some information during my studies that I found remarkably interesting.

I was reading Vladamir Jabotinsky's letter titled "The Iron Wall(We and the Arabs)" published in Rassavyet Nov.4th, 1923. There is also a film of the same name that was released this year that I have just become aware of. Anyway....

Apart from Mr. Jabotinsky's deplorable grasp on American history, his false assertions of the goals of zionism are quite profound. If incriminating evidence were grounds for expelling the zionists from the Palestinian region this statement might be admissible.
"I am prepared to take an oath binding ourselves and our descendants that we shall never do anything contrary to the principle of equal rights, and that we shall never try to eject anyone. This seems to me a fairly peaceful credo."
Furthermore, he also states:
"A few years ago, when the late Mr. Sokolow was on one of his periodic visits to Palestine, he addressed a meeting on this very question of the "misunderstanding." He demonstrated lucidly and convincingly that the Arabs are terribly mistaken if they think that we have any desire to deprive them of their possessions or to drive them our of the country, or that we want to oppress them."
I can see at no time, during the past 60 years, that the zionist entity that occupies Palestine has CEASED to oppress and eject the indigenous Palestinians from the land. Refusing them the right of return to their homes in great numbers for the last 6 decades.

As I paste pertinent parts of my article from the link to the site provided above I find it surprising yet unremarkable that in this particular translation they have neglected to include the beginning of a statement that Jabotinsky made. It goes something like this.....
"A plan that seems to attract many Zionists goes like this: If it is impossible to get the endorsement of Zionism by Palestine's Arabs, then it must be obtained from the Arabs of Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and perhaps Egypt."
This excerpt goes a long way in giving us insight into the current situation in the Middle East. Since the predominant form of Islam that exists in Saudi Arabia is the extremist Wahabism, the other three nations mentioned are all governments that are heavily influenced, if not overtly controlled by zionists.

Iraq was one of the final bastions of anti-zionist sentiment in the region and I submit that aside from the benefit of the petroleum reserves that this was the primary reason for America's invasion of a non-threatening country for which mountains of false 'intelligence' was accumulated to warrant justification.

Saddam was the ONLY 'talking head' in the Middle East that would have launched an all out offensive to counter the zionist invasions that have taken place over the last 2 months or those that remain on the 'drawing board'. And much like George Bush, Saddam would not have negotiated with the real terrorist threat to the region, israel.

Ergo, in order to advance their plans for supremacy, the first baby step to this joint imperialistic adventure was to remove the areas that exhibit the greatest propensity for resistance. Hariri was assassinated in order to foment the withdrawal demand of Syrian troops from Lebanon although they had been invited guests for almost 20 years, unlike the zionist spectre that NOONE willingly invites to dinner but inevitably shows up and crashes the party.

The 'abduction' of the 'israeli soldiers' was merely the catalyst to set this portion of expansionism in motion. Then they deflect the jeers by hiding behind the 'human shield' of the obsequious George Bush.
[Jabotinsky goes on to say,] "Zionist colonization, even the most restricted, must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native population."
I would seriously like to know how this joker can on one hand make the worthless oath to "never oppress or expel" anyone but insist on carrying out such a blatantly aggressive policy that will plainly be impossible to initiate without first OPPRESSING and MURDERING the indigenous population? This guy is a loon.

"We hold that zionism is moral and just.

...There is no other morality.

As long as there is a spark of hope that they can get rid of us, they will not sell their hopes, not for any kind of sweet words or tasty morsels, because they are not a rabble but a nation, perhaps somewhat tattered, but still living.

...Only when not a single breach is visible in the iron wall, only then do extreme groups, with their 'NEVER', lose their sway, and influence transfers to moderate groups.

...But the only path to such an agreement is the iron wall, that is to say the strengthening in Palestine of a government without any kind of Arab influence, that is to say one against which the Arabs will fight."
In this final passage we see the acknowledgement of Jabotinsky that a long arduous fight lie ahead for which they would implement every devious underhanded trick at their disposal.

As the apartheid wall nears completion we will see an increasingly aggressive and arrogant 'israel' emerge. Over 70 years ago they realized that there would come a time when they would have to 'create' a form of government that the Palestinians would fight against because it conflicted with their best interests as a nation. We see that government manifested in the Hamas movement that was a creation of the Mossad and by extension Hiz'b'Allah.

Although there are creditable actions being presented by these groups the ultimate goal for zionism is for the people to trust in something illusory which ends up being part of their downfall.

Crazy? Insane? Perhaps, unless you realize that exact same conditions have existed for years in the United States. A government that is actually the citizens worst enemy, they just aren't paying attention.

Just like George Carlin said, "They call it the 'American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it."


At Sunday, September 03, 2006, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Now I know why Nazinyc likes this blog so much.

You guys are a bunch of racist swastika swingers.

Your blinding hatred of jews is almost palpable.

At Sunday, September 03, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

sot, you're incorrigible.

You can't seem to shake your hysterical confusion between anti-semitism and anti-zionism.

Criticizing the state of Israel is not anti-semitic.

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger Michael Price said...

Sword of Truth:
You're an anti-Semite racist and a holocaust denier.
You hate the Semitic Arabic-speaking people of the Middle East, so you are an anti-Semite and a racist.
You deny the 21st-century holocaust committed against these Semitic people - namely the Palestinians, Lebanese, and Iraqis. This holocaust has killed about 200,000 people and maimed and injured thousands of others. It has caused several million to suffer and live in fear. The Zio-nazi's terror against the people in Gaza and Lebanon, and the American forces horrors in Iraq add up to a holocaust - do you deny it?

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...

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At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger ksdrover said...

"racist swastika swingers"

Can you say that three times REALLY FAST?

You cannot hide your hatred of the fact that we are created equals in the sight of the Creator. "Swastikas" went out with the third reich unlike zionism keeps going and going and going and going and going ad infinitum....at least until judgement visits them.

sword of truth? Is that like an oxymoron akin to 'israeli intelligence'? If you're going to present the truth present the WHOLE TRUTH.

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger gnostalgia said...


You seem to have become obsessed with commenting in this blog. There must be a message here that is threatening to you or you would not be spending so much effort to deny it.

You are either confused and can't tell the difference between Zionist Israelis and Jewish people or you are attempting to confuse readers of this blog by repeating the lie over and over that the information here is motivated by anti-semitism.

Name calling and irrational accusations are not at all convincing.

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger lesliemai said...

if one were to compare a group to the nazi's it wold definatly be the zionists, who can deny ther rascist methods, liqudation of a peoples, destruction and uprooting of lands, the aparthied wall. sword ther are many nice jewish people who are peacefull and reject the extremist fanatical zionist fascism, that comes from the squatters on our lands. pity youve been duped sword, i still love you sword for the sake of Allah.

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger lesliemai said...

i forgot to mention the very rascist racial purity laws the zionist squatters use on our lands, how very naziesque. disgusting and a violation of Gods will

At Monday, September 04, 2006, Blogger Stern Gang said...


I'm having difficulty understanding the crux of the post. You seem to be saying that HAmas and Hiballah by extension are governments that work against the interests of their people. Am I comprehending your point accurately?

You go on to suggest these organizations were "manufactured" by the Zionists in order to befuddle the 'true' aspirations of the Palestinians and Arabs.

CAn you explain what these aspirations are? That is, what aims being represented by or agitated for by Hamas and Hizballa, which contradict the betterment of the Palestinians and Arabs?

The establishment of the unnamed ostensibly, 'real' goals and benefits of the Palestinians and Arabs would be instructive in countervailing your supposing.

What has Hizballah and Hamas done in your opinion that avails this condemnation? It is apparent that both, Hamas and Hizballah advocate and mobilize toward the liberation of their people and their land.

As I said elsewhere, Mossad supported Hamas in its nascent stages to counter the PLO nevertheless, the IDF began to kill every Hamas member they could find once the Israeli plan ran astray and blowback was in the wind like a boomerang. The same can be said about the US experience with the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan and Chechnya. Unforseen circumstances often manifest as Murphy's Law establishes its certitude on human affairs.

In closing and until further clarification from you, I'll just make the observation that if the Zionist are killing them with precision missiles and villifying every aspect of their resistance they can't be all that bad.

At Tuesday, September 05, 2006, Blogger Stern Gang said...

forgive me Ksdrover^

Forgot to also, mention that Hizb'Allah is Arabic for the Party of God.

So the seeming "His Be Allah" (Hiz'B'Allah) really doesn't invoke much neither in Arabic, nor in Hebrew for that matter. I do understand the obvious tendency to lean toward the thought though. Hovever, this apparency only works when one consider English phonetics.

Look, nothing is ever as it seems - I'm open to new information and am willing to change my viewpoint on almost everything if new information enlightens.

Maybe my stubborness on this issue stems from wishful thinking and is not based on a clear investigation of the available evidence. I am willing to learn from credible facts presented and adjust my thinking accordingly.

Keep questioning and sharing information - a very high form of love indeed.

One love,

At Tuesday, September 05, 2006, Blogger ksdrover said...

Stern gang,

Yes, you correct in regards to the first two paragraphs. Please allow me to preface my response with the statement that I am merely presenting information that I have come across in my studies and investigations. I submit them as MY analysis and conclusions but above all each person that desires to know the truth must first desire to search for it themselves. DO NOT take me at my word, read my post and go research it for yourself and tell me what you have found. Thank you.

To recognize the 'aspirations' you have to look at the religious implications of what is taking place. Both the Bible and the Qur'an teach that the Israelites were given the Holy Land but because of their disobedience it was wrested from their grasp and they were sent into exile. It is their desire to not only rule over the Holy Land but to make slaves of all people that will not accept 'the supremacy'. I realize that religion is a sensitive subject but if we don't broach the subject then we cannot 'see' some of the finer nuances.

Now, there are three models to look at; Jabotinsky's, America and Palestine. Jabotinsky plainly lays out the blueprint for zionist nationalism and the destruction of Palestine. Many people have been been labeled conspiracy theorists for simply suggesting that there is a 'joo conspiracy'. But if honest examination provides us with a clear picture of a 'plan' then is it not in our best intrests to educate ourselves to their 'aspirations'?

Next we have the model of America and by studying history we can see how corporate intrest as well as foreign money and power hijacked this nation. We now live in a nation that is no longer steered or controlled by the people but by big business and the zionist foreign policy. They have effectively distracted and decieved the people into believing that they have a government that is by their election and subject to their aganda. It is glaringly apparent that this government does not serve its people but itself and the 'lobbyists' from israel, yet people still believe in the 'land of the free and the home of the brave'.

Lastly we have Palestine which differs from the first two. Muslims are not so easily fooled as Americans. Islam is not based on nationalism, nor has it ever been. That is where the zionists have run into a brick wall. Islam instills in the person a sense of responsibility to the community but not a 'nation of Islam' that has been subtly introduced since the 1960's.

Hamas and Hiz'b'Allah are groups that have been created to 're-educate' the people into believing in and seeking the national existence that they are told will make them free and give them security. IF zionist israel succeeds in this effort then Palestine will become like America in that the people will be mindless, poorly educated, incapable of critical thinking....slaves.

You must also take into account that human life has no intrisic value. As they view life it is defined by the power and influnce that they hold just as it was in Egypt during the time of Moses. They view themselves as 'gods' on Earth and their choices pertaining to life and death are simple formalities as to whom is pleasing or displeasing in their sight.

The 'blowback' that you mention is merely acceptable losses. Do you really believe that ANY of the soldiers that die FOR israel come from the elite bloodlines that govern the state? Do you believe that zionist israel gives a flip about any one of them or their families? Part of their ultimate goal is to use ALL foreign blood to defend and die for them.

I hope that this answers some of your questions but I urge you to read their writings to get insight into their way of thinking. Although I do not subscribe to some 'great conspiracy of the joos', I do believe that in the end it is all a conspiracy to take from the Creator what belongs to Him. Our worship, our attention, our love. If there is anything that you feel I have not addressed or clarified please let me know. I may not be able to respond immediately but I will as time allows.

indeed One love


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