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Shitanism, Materialist Religion


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As their lives get sucked into a black hole of shit, they can't seem to figure out what's missing. One woman, Jill even prays to a rotten pumpkin. When it's messy and visibly unhealthy, they call it a mental illness, but materialism and idolatry take many forms, and could easily appear to be immaculate.

This is from a new TLC series called "Truth Be Told: I'm A Hoarder".

40 Comments:

At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

A lot of mental disorders and bad behaviors are due to the brain damage caused by addiction
http://www.10547.info/thorburn/tsari.html

also www.amenclinics.com

According to Daniel Amen, it doesn't take much to damage the brain.

It used to be that you could mainly get high on alcohol. Now there's everything including prescription drugs, hard drugs, paint thinner, etc. Those are much more common these days than they were a few decades ago.

I've got a collection of about half a dozen vials of Vicodin (up to 7 years old) because the Dr.'s give those out like candy. I use a couple and then shelve the rest.

You have to discriminate between cause and effect here.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

I think it's a cultural disorder, not necessarily a mental one, unless you consider the culture to be mental.

There is no evidence of the people in the video being addicts to drugs, although you're probably right about the brain damage, it would vary depending on the poison.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

There is no evidence of the people in the video being addicts to drugs,

That is a very common misconception - especially if you haven't made a study of addiction. They have all the requisite behaviors that point to it.

Read up on hidden alcoholism - most people have no idea about this. It takes an average of 9 years before a spouse catches on to a mate's addiction. That has been proven.

What has happened in society is a combination of increased substance abuse (through promotion of same) along with a lowering of standards (in all areas). That is the standard recipe for chaos.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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Drug and alcohol abuse are escapist behaviours that have original causes, they are not the original problem. All 3 adult hoarders in the video display attachment to material items that cannot be explained by alcoholism alone.

Materialist beliefs are the culprit, and those beliefs, including idolatry, are being taught to us, mostly through television. These people are products of a sick culture.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Drug and alcohol abuse are escapist behaviours that have original causes

No, genetic. That has been proven. Any expert on alcoholism will tell you. One of the myths is that trauma caused the addiction. If that were true, we'd all be addicts.

The claptrap that
1) everyone is born crazy
2) everyone needs therapy
3) society made me crazy
4) the media made me do it

is Freudian Zionist claptrap.

Many standard psychiatric disorders have roots in the brain damage from substance abuse. Ask Dr. Amen.

As for media, since the internet people have been turning away in droves from the MSM - they do have a choice (finally).

There is no such thing as "the media made me do it" (in spite of the media being at a perpetual low point). Such a defense would be laughed out of court, anywhere, unless you are speaking of children, whose brains don't fully develop until age 25 or so.

An addict has genetic issues to deal with. That's standard knowledge in any rehab center.

You cannot discount the role of addiction in these behaviors. That is the first place to look.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

They are addicted to the 'joy' of buying things, and perhaps the food is addictive as well.

Even if there is a genetic pre-disposition to 'doing drugs,' there are still traumatic events and life stressors that often trigger the abuse.

Not everything can be explained by some 'scientific experiment,' just because you say it is, or because zionists are full of shit.

It would have been evident in those pigsteyes if they were alcoholics; i never discounted the possibility, although you haven't proven it.

 
At Wednesday, August 19, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Most addicts have multiple addictions. That is standard. Polydrug, smoking, promiscuity, financial abuse. They also fall into criminal behaviors, power tripping and abuse. Felons and gang members are close to 100% addicts. Any probation officer will tell you as much.

you haven't proven it

Oh, please. I'll be here all night, because you've chosen to be ignorant of basic research and want to fall back on your 2 cent opinions. Read something on addiction.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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All talk andie thinks his books can explain everything, but video evidence is insignificant.

Perhaps your addiction to 'always being right' is rooted in your materialism and self-idolatry. I feel sorry for anyone who has to live with pretentious, argumentative, always-right handie.

"The best candidates for genetic research, they believe, are disorders whose emergence and course cannot be derailed by changes in personal habits or manipulation of the environment. Examples are autism, Type 1 diabetes and Alzheimer's disease.

In contrast, lower priority on the genetic research hierarchy should go to conditions like Type 2 diabetes or alcohol or nicotine addiction, they argue. Type 2 diabetes, after all, can be largely avoided through exercise and weight loss, and teenagers will buy less beer if taxes on alcohol are high enough. Similarly, a combination of smoking bans, social pressure and taxes have had an impact on smoking."


healthpolicy.stanford.edu

Research is the messiah, eh andie?

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

"It is generally agreed that alcoholism can be hereditary, and if you have or had an alcoholic parent then you run a higher risk of developing the condition yourself than other people might.

Alcoholism does tend to run in families and it’s felt that genetics are partly responsible for this. But popular opinion is that it’s this genetic glitch, together with environmental situations and learnt behaviour from an alcoholic home that can cause the disease to develop. It’s not necessarily just genetic… these other factors play a huge part in the whole thing.


alcoholissues.co.uk

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

The best candidates for genetic research, they believe, are disorders whose emergence and course cannot be derailed by changes in personal habits or manipulation of the environment. Examples are autism, Type 1 diabetes and Alzheimer's disease.

Hey, no disagreement! All this article is saying is that alcoholism is a genetic disorder that can be taken care of by changing behavior e.g. rehab -

AND

Other disorders need more research because the solution isn't as cut and dried.

Can't you read?

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Perhaps your addiction to 'always being right' is rooted in your materialism and self-idolatry. I feel sorry for anyone who has to live with pretentious, argumentative, always-right handie.

That's called "transference". You sure that's not you?

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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In case you can't read,
it's not nearly as cut-and-dry as you think.
What's your problem anyways? IMS?

Their problems are related to materialism,
not alcoholism. Nice try.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

But popular opinion is that it’s this genetic glitch, together with environmental situations and learnt behaviour from an alcoholic home that can cause the disease to develop. It’s not necessarily just genetic

Agreed again! Yes! It is genetics that cause the alcoholic. Genetics are why the parents ("alcoholic home") are alcoholics. "Environmental situations" are behaviors associated with alcoholism that affect children in an alcoholic household.

Their problems are related to materialism,
not alcoholism. Nice try.


Then we'd all be hoarders, because we're all material beings in a material world who can't live on air. Whatever. I have better things to do. See ya.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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No, andie, we're not all as materialistic as you think, and not everyone thinks like you do.

You are a liar, the articles do not conclude that genetics are anything more than a factor in alcoholism.

One must distinguish truth from pseudo-scientific experiments. Did the 'genetic reseach' take into account the influence of parents, family, friends, cultural norm, materialism, idolatry, and all environmental stressors? Of course not, even if they tried, they cannot accurately calculate such things.

In my honest opinion, I don't think it's genetic at all, and much of the 'research' based on blaming genetics for disease, is patently flawed.

Go back to your empty materialistic mirror, and argue 'till your heart's content, you all-knowing idol, you.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger qrswave said...

A&E BS -- typical of them to senstionalize a few simple people with a limited problem (consequences limited to themselves and the narrow circle of people around them...

what about the fucking psychos who hoard and steal billions upon billions of dollars as the watch the entire world go to blazes around them???

what's worse, a rotting pumpkin in one woman's home, or the rotting corpse of a dismembered child, courtesy of some greedy arms dealers?

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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You said it, qrswave

This is a directly related sickness, due to people being brainwashed with materialism and idolatry, disempowered by constant brow-beating, guilt, and compensated/bribed with material items for their acquiescence to those who do the worst deeds, those who want others to become sick like them, even if only in petty ways.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

"A number of modern "respectable" Jewish fortunes were founded on links to the underworld in the Prohibition era. The Seagram's alcohol fortune (Bronfman family) had a distribution deal for his liquor with mobster Meyer Lansky.

The Chicago-based Pritzker family also had links with organised crime."


postremus.com

jewwatch.com/jew-crime-mob-russia-ussr

So tell me miss dandie, about the Lansky, Khazar-joo mafia greed genetics.. or better yet, shut the fuck up.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

You are a liar

No dude - you can't read.

the articles do not conclude that genetics are anything more than a factor in alcoholism.

Yes, but they are a FACTOR! Good Lord, what is the matter with your brain?



In my honest opinion, I don't think it's genetic at all,

Why in the hell should anyone give two hoots about your grade school opinions on science?

And to those out there who wish to see something educational, here is a good video on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHug3J3N0Dk

And BTW, hoarding is related to OCD, not "materialism"

This blog is turning into a joke.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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You haven't proven that any alcoholism was involved at all, making your argument (with yourself mostly) null and void, pointless. (look down)

pretentious materialist.

There is a link to OCD, but hoarding is quite materialistic, so don't fucking lie to me.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

LIE? HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, please.

OCD has some relation to substance abuse. Typical examples are alcoholic homeless pushing junk around in shopping carts.

Gads! Read something. Get an education!

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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Something is wrong with you.

 
At Thursday, August 20, 2009, Blogger qrswave said...

settle down people - you're arguing about a psychosocial attribute/condition that is multifaceted and multifactorial...

you're both right to some degree or another.

It's enough to recognize this type of behavior as dysfunctional and to think of ways to combat it and hopefully cure it.

God knows that alcohol does not affect everyone the same way (some people are prone to become addicted to it while others are not). Nevertheless, the Quran prohibits alcohol altogether from everyone, for any reason.

God also repeatedly warns people against the dangers of excess and greed in general...

as for OCD - human beings are creatures of habit.

OCD appears to be a pathological exxageration of that quintessentially human characteristic.

there's no doubt that this pathology is cultivated in people - especially Americans - from a very early age through constant exposure to commercials, either on tv, or magazines, or billboards, etc.

the fact that some people are more adversely affected than others probably has to do with a combination of their upbringing and their genetic dispositions...

 
At Friday, August 21, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

No worries, qrs

andie is just being defending materialism by claiming that all the hoarders are alcoholics, without any proof.

perhaps all materialism is due to alcoholism (sic)

 
At Friday, August 21, 2009, Blogger sitisoleha said...

What is lacking is belief in God that He is watching them and in the Judgement Day when God will take account of their deeds. The best way to approach them is to call them to God Who owns whatever they may like to hoard and inform them about the hereafter where God promised them to give all what they like and more if they worship Him and none else in this present world. And to warn them of the Fire prepared for those who refuse.

 
At Friday, August 21, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

Thank you for your comments,
God bless you all =)

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

andie is just being defending materialism by claiming that all the hoarders are alcoholics, without any proof.

Oh cripes - here we go again (sigh).

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

God knows that alcohol does not affect everyone the same way (some people are prone to become addicted to it while others are not).

Yes -that's genetic predisposition - typical of some groups (such as Native Americans who can have up to a 70% addiction rate).

The genetic predisposition has to do with acclimation over millenia to alcohol containing products (like wine).

Italians and other southern Europeans in wine growing areas, that have traditionally used wine (some say about 10,000 years) are the least likely to become addicts.

Native Americans, Africans, and Northern Europeans have had a much shorter history with alcohol. In the case of N.A.'s, it's about 300 years, give or take. Same with Africans. N. Europeans slightly longer (1300 years or thereabouts). This is not enough time to acclimate.

The lowest level of acclimation correlates directly with higher levels of addiction.

The cure is either abstinence or in the case of long term use, getting one's brain repaired (www.amenclinics.com) and then remaining abstinent afterwards. That may be preferable to spending years in therapy or AA meetings.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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You are on a complete tangent.

When it's messy and visibly unhealthy, they call it a mental illness, but materialism and idolatry take many forms, and could easily appear to be immaculate.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

You're like talking to someone from the Flat Earth Society.

All you want to do is go back to your opinions as a reference point which are based on some belief in "idolatry". You can get stuck in a medievalist mind set if you wish. The problem is this is the 21st century. Good luck to your living in the year 800.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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Perhaps all greedy people are alcoholics?

You already chased one blogger away with your petulent rants, and whether you're right or wrong, nobody is going to care what some whining joo bitch has to say.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Keep up the hate speech about Jews and we won't have a blog! Don't you get it? You can't attack someone JUST BECAUSE they are JEWISH.

That is what you did. Look up something on libel laws - she had a right to defend herself. Or are you going to go by your own "personal wisdom" or whatever you want to call it?

You didn't get any further or make any additional points other than a personal attack on Cohen for being Jewish and that is WRONG no matter what.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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I think the ADL put her up to this, in order to set a precedent for identifying bloggers, to sue for libel/defamation, and charge with hate-crimes.

But you don't care about that, because you probably work for ADL too, pretentious lying infidel joo.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Great. Now we're back to name calling.

You THINK? So? That's opinion. Not fact. And don't tell me what I care or don't care about. I care about the fact that you're turning this forum into a laughing stock.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

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Next time you drop off some matza balls, look down at your reflection and smile.

I don't care about your opinion either, nor your pre-determined on-tangent conclusions, and abrasive argumentativeness.

Face it, your problem with this post is that you're a materialist, and your problem with the other post is that you're a joo.

 
At Saturday, August 22, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

OK - then you're a Jew (or Joo) or whatever. When's your Bar Mitzvah, bubbie? In a couple weeks?

 
At Sunday, August 23, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

So, it's okay for the un-fallible andie to claim that Kurt Cobain was gay and slept with joos, but somehow joos suing for the identity of Google bloggers is not relevant, and is 'anti-semitic' to mention, lest the blog be taken down.

You are a hypocrite, must be the khazar GENE.

 
At Sunday, August 23, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

Oh, lordy. Still ranting about Cobain. I swear you must be in love. Maybe I should explain it more slowly. Jewish - people - run - the - media. Sometimes - they - compromise - people - who - are - on - the - way - up. It- happens.

Since your ignorance knows no bounds - I'll explain a little media law:

Cohen is a living person. Cobain is not. That explains how / why some things can get published after a person's death.

There were a lot more revelations about Michael Jackson AFTER he died, that he could have sued for had he still been alive. It does not mean that what is said after a person's death is untrue.

A smart 12 year old will get that. I'm positive you won't. Don't argue with me. Ask an attorney.

You sure you're not 12? What's up with all the vulgarity?

 
At Sunday, August 23, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

So, mentioning that joos own the media is okay, but mentioning that a joo sued for being called a goyim is not, and is 'anti-semitic' and may result in the blog being shut down. Perhaps the media mogul you were talking about is dead too. Take it up with the telegraph.

You are obviously an obfuscating khazar hypocrite. Are you an alcoholic? (sic)

 
At Sunday, August 23, 2009, Blogger andie531 said...

You sure you're not 12?

 
At Sunday, August 23, 2009, Blogger gr1m_reaper said...

That was a good one, God bless you.
Thanks for all the comments!

 

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