Something's Not Right in Tel Aviv
A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up outside a fast-food restaurant in a bustling commercial area of Tel Aviv during the Passover holiday Monday, killing eight other people and wounding at least 49, police said. Israeli Prime Minister-designate Ehud Olmert said Israel would respond "as necessary."It's tragic that more people continue to lose their lives in this conflict. The dreadful details are heart wrenching. However, I want to draw your attention to something I found odd about the incident.
The bomber struck at about 1:40 p.m. at "The Mayor's Felafel" restaurant, which was targeted in a Jan. 19 attack that wounded 20 people. The restaurant is in the bustling Neve Shaanan neighborhood near Tel Aviv's central bus station, which was crowded with holiday travelers.Am I missing something? Was the same guard who opened the bag the one who was "injured" in the blast? If so, how could he escape death, when a woman, presumably standing at least as far away from the alleged bomber and the bag as the guard was, was killed instantaneously?
Police said the restaurant hired a security guard after the earlier bombing, and that guard apparently was injured in Monday's blast.
A witness, Moussa al Zidat, said the guard asked the apparent bomber to open his bag.
"I saw a young man starting to open his bag. The guard begins opening the bag, and then I heard a boom."
Witness Israel Yaakov said the blast killed a woman standing near her husband and children.
"The father was traumatized. He went into shock. He ran to the children to gather them up and the children were screaming, 'Mom! Mom!' and she wasn't answering, she was dead already ... it's a shocking scene," Yaakov said.
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UPDATE: shortly after this version of the story was released the statement was modified to read: "Police said the guard was torn in half by the blast."
Honest mistake? Perhaps. But, how likely is it that you would mistake someone who's "torn in half" as being "apparently injured"?
posted by qrswave @ Monday, April 17, 2006
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@qrswave
i'm a little late but thanks for you comment ;)
what's the purpose of your "the truth will set you free blog"?
are you free masons?
leah, welcome
no, we're not free masons, we're trying to spread the truth about the corrupt monetary system in the United States and all over the world.
Easy answer. The guard was wearing body armor.
on his face and his arms?
I would imagine that anyone handling the bag as it exploded would get his limbs blown off and his face destroyed.
Steve Bar-Ner, a spokesman for the Magen David Adom ambulance service, said many of the casualties were foreign workers.
"The wounded were men and women, mostly middle-aged people and foreign workers," he said.
Witnesses told police they had seen a blue vehicle fleeing the scene of the attack seconds before the explosion occurred. Police helicopters were searching for the vehicle, which they suspect dropped off the bomber.
Officials say a guard, who blocked the bomber from entering a fast-food restaurant, was torn in half by the blast. A police spokesman says officers stopped a car that officials believe is "directly connected" to the attack. He says three Palestinians in the vehicle are being held for questioning and a bomb squad is going over the car.
That passage doesn't even say the guard is alive, but because you are so deadset to believe that Palestinians=innocent puppy dogs and Israelis=evil monsters, you will assume the worst about Israelis no matter what.
Beyond that, who says the guard is not alive but severely injured, even if he is alive? I am sure the guard was wearing body armor, so that actually would make sense.
Ehud Olmert already said - numerous times - that he is planning to cede most of the West Bank to the Palestinians. Given that, the Palestinian suicide bombers really have nothing to justify their actions except their phony calls to "victim" status that this blog regularly perpetuates.
What exactly will be gained by suicide bombing? Zippo. Ehud Olmert already said the Palestinians will get most of what they want, and yet rocket attacks and suicide bombing continues. It's almost as if the Palestinians don't know how to say yes when offered a great deal.
Oh well. Iran will probably have a nuke soon enough, but if they ever go after Israel with said nukes, then Israel is well within their rights to bomb the crap out of Iran in response. Such a reaction would likely cause Pakistan to respond, and India to get involved. This chain reaction could very well lead to the destruction of the universe.
C'est la vie.
Either the guard was injured or killed - which one?
Yeah. Some body armor does cover arms and legs.
It could also depend on which direction the explosive charge was directed.
Not discounting anything. Just playing the contrarian.
I don't assume anything. The passage says "that guard apparently was injured."
Considering they went into graphic detail about others who were killed instantaneously, saying the guard was "apparently injured" raises some questions.
Even more so, now that I find a subsequent report which is essentially the same as the original report only now the guard's body was torn in half.
The bomber struck at about 1:40 p.m. at "The Mayor's Falafel" restaurant, which was targeted in a Jan. 19 attack that wounded 20 people. The restaurant is in the Neve Shaanan neighborhood near Tel Aviv's central bus station, which was crowded with holiday travelers.
Police said the restaurant hired a security guard after the earlier bombing.
The bomber, carrying a bag stuffed with 10 pounds of explosives, approached the guard at the restaurant's entrance, witnesses said. As he was being checked, he detonated the explosives. Police said the guard was torn in half by the blast.
"I saw a young man starting to open his bag. The guard begins opening the bag, and then I heard a boom," witness Moussa al Zidat said.
The AP reporter would have to be extremely careless to overlook the implausibility of the account he wrote up. I find that unlikely considering these people eat, sleep, and drink journalism.
What is implausible here? Sometimes facts are reported as they arrive. I fail to see what is implausible, and all I see are your own prejudices which naturally assume that somehow Israelis are bombing their own people. You are looking for implausible and frankly, stupid, holes in this story.
Why not just accept the reality that there was a suicide bomb? I know it would counter the idea of Palestinians being innocent puppy dogs, but it would be a more truthful reality, and I thought this blog was supposed to be the truth will set you free.
Look, had there been no original report where he was "apparently injured" followed by one where his "body was torn in half," then there would be nothing to question.
However, that's not the case. Call me a cynic, but I find it hard to believe that the person relaying the information can confuse 'apparent injury' with 'body torn in half.' Big difference.
Besides, I don't claim to know the truth. I'm just pointing out something obviously strange in the account.
"Body torn in half" is itself an injury. The two accounts are not inconsistent. One simply contains more facts than the other - which makes sense, as news generally is reported as it's received.
The only thing strange is that you are looking for holes in the story, as you refuse to acknowledge the obvious - that Palestinians in fact suicide bomb in Israel.
I would never characterize someone as "injured" if I had reason to believe that his body was torn in half, which - given the account of the explosion going off as the guard was seen opening the bag - is (1) a fairly obvious conclusion; and (2) means that the person should be considered "dead" not "injured."
But, whatever. It's just an observation from which I can't draw any conclusions other than it's odd.
Qrswave Continues Self-Delusions
(Mighty Thor, 17 Apr 06)
Dear qrswave, I gotta tell u it is so funny (and sad too) to see u letting urself be bullied and intimidated by that Jew-liar "Miss R" who is absolutely nothing but a Jew-Israeli disinfo agent.
All Inductive Logic and Evidence points to culpability of (1) topmost Jews, bankers, and oligarchs of the Council on Foreign Relations, including "neo-cons" (CFR--see JBS.org); (2) Israelis and lower-level Jews, like "Miss R"; and (3) then all the other "Sadducean," of modern-day, accomplices among the gentiles.
Some mystic force short-circuits ur otherwise well-functioning sense of logic--especially inductive. The obvious answer, Jews, as culprits and perpetrators, can only be tempered by acknowledging yes, Jews do indubitably need collaborators among the gentiles--exactly as we see in the CFR. What's ur problem?
Note qrswave, these above-cited conspirators are small minorities, and these are the people responsible for ongoing murdering of Islamic people (among others too) who've done absolutely nothing against the USA--in exactly same fashion they murdered the poor Serbs, white Christians, pls note, back in '99, for example.
These topmost conspirators then intimidate the addicted Mammon-worshippers, ESPECIALLY THE ELDERS, who want to keep working earning their evermore worthless Fed. Reserve notes so they can buy crap and keep watching the pornography Jews give them on mass "Jews-media."
Why is above scenario so difficult for u, qrswave?
Above scenario is why "Akber" is so wrong regarding his railing against white Americans, though surely there are many whites among the Mammon-addicts--especially among the elders WHO ESSENTIALLY ONLY "GO ALONG" OR WATCH PASSIVELY as Judeo-"Sadduceans" and "neo-con" Jews effect their mass-murder schemes.
And again, the ABSTRACT essence to this anti-American empire, now pursuing mass murder of Muslims in guise of Orwellian "Perpetual war for perp. peace" is quite plainly SUBJECTIVISM, this built upon addiction to heresy like Pelagianist "good-evil" moralism.
Look qrswave, why can't u admit simple propositions like 9-11 mass-murders were classic "false-flag" operations, huge horrific travesties, at which Jews excel? What do these frauds DEPEND UPON IF NOT SUBJECTIVIST mentality of the dupes of the culture who are intimidated in going along w. the real perpetrators and their (otherwise) stupid scams?
Tell me pls: how else does fraud get successfully perpetrated unless the dupes ARE FIRST SET up with subjectivistic mentality?
That's why we true patriots say if u're not antisemitic FIRST OF ALL, u're just NOT "WITH IT."
Thus when u denounce general, overall antisemitism as an ideal in itself, U'RE ONLY DOING THE WORK OF THE JEWS and their collaborators among gentiles. Indeed, u're mere collaborator urself. If puke like "Miss R" says the sun is shining, be sure to have ur flashlight handy. If "Miss R" says it's dark outside, be sure to be wearing ur sunglasses.
CONCLUSION: Get a clue if u want to get serious. Patriotism begins with basic, fundamental antisemitism--which "Christians" must learn. And if u're not antisemitic, not only are u a mere stupid, ignorant puke--u're actually a treasonous collaborator and co-conspirator. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Thor
Thanks for calling me puke, it's a real compliment. :-)
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