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A picture of the Pentagon you've never seen before



No comment, except to say - look carefully and tell me what you see and what you don't see.



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UPDATE, in response to MR's comment at WRH: The charge that I meant to mislead anyone with the title is unfair. I have never seen this image before and it's reasonable to think that others may not have seen it either.

Regarding the plane, I deliberately refrained from commenting about whether or not I saw debris of an airliner in this image. First, because I wanted readers to draw their own conclusions, and second, because I didn't think that it was conclusive one way or another, though the folks at Brasscheck, who sent me the link, find it compelling. I've never had reason to question their sincerity as they've sent me a number of valuable links before. At the time I posted this image, I didn't realize, nor did it occur to me, that it was cropped to exclude important evidence.

The only conclusion that I could definitively draw from this image, was that the remains of the building look nothing like the scale of disintegration we saw at the WTC. Same type of plane - with perhaps less fuel. But, there was also much less building to pulverize.

I've never seen the images MR links to at his site. I won't argue that they don't look like debris from a plane - they do - specifically the image that appears to be a portion of the landing gear.

I agree with TGR that it's not helpful to focus too much on whether or not a plane hit the Pentagon - there are people out there who, without having seen all the evidence, cannot possibly distinguish between what is true and what is false. This does not, however, prove that they do so out of malice or with intention to mislead.

Ultimately, the best we can do as a movement is stick together and focus on proving - incontrovertably - that the official version of what really happened at the WTC is a lie, because, like it or not, we're in this together.




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Thanks, Brasscheck

20 Comments:

At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger The Great Revealer said...

These Racist Ashkenazi Khazar Zionists just love to make enemies with EVERYONE on the planet, don't they!

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Mossad Agents Arrested
In Attempt To Bomb
Mexican Congress
From http://www.kosmos.uni.cc/
11-26-1

Interview with Journalist Hector Carreon on 11-30:
http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/01archives.html

From the PGR (Mexican Department Of Justice) official web site comes an interesting story.

As reported in La Vox De Aztlan, two men, one of them a former Israeli Colonel and Mossad agent, were arrested INSIDE the Mexican congress carrying 9mm pistols and dynamite, but were released following intense pressure from the Israeli Embassy.

Army General and Head of the PGR Releases Two Israelis
Arrested With Guns and Explosives Inside the Mexican Congress
By Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan
October 15, 2001

LOS ANGELES (ACN) - In a mind-blowing development, La Voz de Aztlan has learned that Mexican Army General Rafael Marcial Macedo de la Concha who heads the Procuraduría General de la República (Mexican Department of Justice) has released the retired Israeli Defense Forces colonel and presumed MOSSAD agent Salvador Guersson Smecke and Israeli illegal immigrant Saur Ben Zvi after both had penetrated the security of the Mexican Congress and where in possession of guns, hand grenades and explosives.

This morning La Voz de Aztlan had a personal telephone interview with the Mexican Congressional Press Secretary, Lic. Adriana Lopez, and verified the arrest of the two Israelis after they had entered through the highly secured front entrance of the Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro. She stated to La Voz de Aztlan that the two terrorists had taken advantage of a situation that occurred around 1700 hours of Wednesday October 10 when a large contingent of Sugar Industry Unionists were entering through the metal detectors. The two Israelis followed about 50 of the unionists to the office of the President of the Mexican Congress Beatriz Paredes. The two Israelis were first pretending to be press photographers but called the attention of the sugar unionists because of their nervous and out of the ordinary behavior. About ten of the unionists confronted them and observed that they were carrying guns and and what looked to them to be explosives. They held the two Israelis until Official Congressional Security personnel took them into custody. The head of Congressional Security Salvador Alarcón verified that the Israelis had in their possession nine hand grenades, sticks of dynamite, detonators, wiring and two 9mm "Glock" automatics.

Mexican Congressional Press Secretary Lic. Adriana Lopez informed La Voz de Aztlan in the telephone interview that Congressional Security then turned the terrorists Salvador Guersson Smecke, age 34, and Saur Ben Zvi, age 27, to the Procuraduría General de la República (Mexican Department of Justice) which is headed by Mexican Army General Rafael Marcial Macedo de la Concha. Initial reports by the Procuraduría General de la República (PGR) were that both Israelis worked for a private security agency and that they both had gun permits. It turned out that there is no connection of either suspect to any private security agency. The PGR has released the retired Israeli I.D.F. colonel with the official explanation that he had a legal permit to carry a gun. They also released the illegal Israeli immigrant on about $4000 bail and the case turned over to the Mexican immigration authorities. Mexican Congressional Press Secretary Lic. Adriana Lopez was surprised to hear from La Voz de Aztlan of the release of the two Israelis.

La Voz de Aztlan has also learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after may hours of complete silence. What went one during those high levels meetings no ones knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release. Guns and any kind of explosive is highly illegal for Mexican citizens and the fact that these two Israelis had them inside the Mexican Congress makes their release highly suspect. What is really going on? Jorge Gutman, the Mexican Foreign Secretary, has very strong Zionist connections and himself is of Jewish descent. Mexican Army General Macedo de la Concha has strong connections to the U.S. Military Industrial-Complex and through this to the Israeli Defense Forces. Have any of these connections influenced the decision to release the two Zionist terrorists?

The initial arrests of the two Israelis inside the Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro made top news on Mexico City television and radio on the evening of October 10. TV Azteca had extensive coverage on the first night and on the following day. La Cronica de Hoy Newspaper and El Universal Newspaper both covered the incident the following two days but now it seems that there is a lack of reports. The PGR has a Press Bulletin on their official website at but they have made no updates. No U.S. media has made any mention, that we know, except one by USAJewish.com this Sunday at: Pravda of Moscow has a note of the initial La Voz de Aztlan article at:

What were the Israelis up to? We think we know. The Vicente Fox government has been very careful of involving Mexico in a war against Islam. The Mexican population as well as the two major opposition political parties, the PRI and the PRD will not allow it. President Bush and the U.S. Zionists want Mexico fully involved in the war principally because if things get tough in the middle east and the oil rich Arabs leave the coalition, the U.S. military machine is going to need alternative sources of oil and PEMEX is just across the border. We believe that the two Zionists terrorist were going to blow up the Mexican Congress. The second phase was to mobilize both the Mexican and US press to blame Osama bin Laden. Most likely then Mexico would declare war on Afghanistan as well, commit troops and all the oil it could spare to combat Islamic terrorism.


COMMENT

From Mario Andrade
mario.mx@verizon.net
11-26-1

Hello Jeff,

I want to congratulate you in every way for posting the articles on your website. When I read the article about the Mossad agents caught trying to bomb the Mexican congress, I almost jumped out of my chair. I was SHOCKED. I couldn't believe it, so I went to the PGR website and verified it.

IT'S ALL TRUE! It's 100% accurate! You've nailed it! The guys that learned about this should get an award for reporting it. This proves your suspicions about Mossad involvement, or at least knowledge about 9-11. Do you remember the group of Israelis taking pictures and video from a roof top as the twin towers were burning to the ground? I could be wrong, but I believed you mentioned that during a Barry Chamish's appearance in your program.

WHERE ARE THE MAJOR NEWS NETWORKS ON THIS? They are all too busy promoting the Time-Warner-AOL-CNN Harry Potter movie or reporting on "the anthrax scare" (they call it scare because they're the ones scaring people). It's amazing how we can better rely on websites like yours for accurate news. It seems like we need to dig the truth out on our own all the time.

This media blackout is nothing less than the New World Order at work. Here we have two Israelis with explosives, grenades and guns caught inside the legislative chamber of the Mexican congress, and yet, NOTHING is mentioned in the news; not even in Mexico.

Without a doubt, these two suspects will be released. The PGR (Attorney General) website in Mexico does not list in "plain language" the charges for the suspects. It lists the "penal codes". They are the following: Violation of articles 123 and 143 of the General Law of Population in accordance with the sixth and seventh dash 1, 8, 9, and 13 of the federal penal code. This means that unless you're a lawyer in Mexico, you won't have any clue as for what they mean. This is how they let criminals go free all the time. Those codes could be bogus or made up, but the population is so dumbed down and ignorant that they will buy this without bothering to question it.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN AMERICA: TOTAL IGNORANCE AND SUBMISSIVENESS OF THE POPULATION AND TOTAL CONTROL OF THOSE IN POWER.

Please keep up the excellent work and thanks for informing us about what's really going on.

Best wishes,

Mario Andrade

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger akira said...

those poor poor people who had to bear the brunt of a plane slamming into their building so hard that it completely disintegrated, well except for the hijackers' passports probably.

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger The Great Revealer said...

By the way, regarding the photo we can discern several facts:


The rubble from the impact remains. It can be seen that the top of the brown roof from the collapsed building remains, which indicates they have not removed the rubble -- this means that "WHATEVER" hit the Pentagon is still there (or should still be there) -- this is especially the case if it was a LARGE PLANE, but smally "missile-like" objects could have been removed.

On further inspection, we can see that there was fire as indicated by black on the 2nd and 3rd building complex connected to it -- however, what is odd and unusual is that the fire was localized towards the corridors connecting the buildings (as can see in the photo, the 'middle' sections is not blackened. However, this indicates only 'external fires' suffered by the buildings. Internal fires are not evident from the photo.

On a related note, we can notice there was a huge fire that affected the "triangle" ROOFS of the main corridors connecting the buildings. It starts mainly at the second building on continues visibly towards the 5th building. This appears to indicate a 'secondary' fire.

The impact area in the front does not appear large enough for a LARGE PASSENGER AIRCRAFT, but would be able to accomdate a smaller aircraft or missile. The max extent of damage appears to be at most 8 WINDOWS WIDE, as the other columns are still supporting the part of the building that has not collapsed. Only the first, front facing building collapsed -- the "object" may have penetrated into the other buildings, but this is not evident from this photo alone.

There are no OBVIOUS skid marks on the lawn/ground, and judging from impact, the "plane" must have hit low --- which means that IF it were a plane, it flew WITH PINPOINT PRECISION DIRECTLY AT ITS TARGET AREA. This contradicts the "muslim men" theory, since the supposed MUSLIM MEN who crashed the planes had trouble even CONTROLLING a small plane. It is EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE that such a bunch of disorganized bubbling incompentent men can FLY A LARGE PASSENGER PLANE with pinpoint MILITARY ACCURACY AT SUCH HIGH VELOCITY.

From this high-level view, there is no obvious and apparent indication of a LARGE PASSENGER PLANE. The size of impact area does not indicate this -- but supposing the wings "simply snapped 'backwards' instantly on impact" -- there are no tail, or wings, or body of the plane. As mentioned above, the "rubble" has not be yet removed, so the "object" "should" still be there.






But the personal opinion is that this is one of the least (if not the least) relevant part of 9/11. It is meant to distract the common person. We are "given" photos by ONLY ONE UNRELIABLE SOURCE -- the US Government. These photos and "snapshots" of videos are BOTH BLURRY, WITHOUT SUFFICIENT DETAILS TO DISCERN WHAT HAPPENED, and COULD POSSIBLY BE DOCTORED (since the only other 'known' video was from a Gas Station but was quickly confiscated).

What ever "evidence" about the Pentagon damage IS RELEASED BY THE US GOVERNMENT & MAINSTREAM Ashkenazi Media. In todays modern day, technology is so sophisicated that even a child can DOCTOR PHOTOS/VIDEOS. The fact that ALL of our available evidence COMES FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ORCHESTRATED THE EVENT, does NOT go too well with me.

Compare this with WTC 1&2, and especially WTC7 where the evidence is NATURAL EVIDENCE (i.e. HONEST testomony at the time, seismographs, thermal image of molten still, audio records of firefighters with sounds of explosions, "pops" in the background, the debris, the videos of the impact, the FREE-FALL OF THE BUILDINGS, the "kink" of the CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF WTC7 which is clearly visible & LARRY SILVERSTEIN'S FOOLISH ADMISSION AND LENGTHLY EXPLANATION OF THE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, etc, etc, etc).

Why get distracted by an event that the ONLY source of "evidence" is the planned released by the orchestrators of 9/11 ---- when we have a MUCH MORE ABUNDENT AND RELIABLE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE concerning the WTC 1&2, and WTC7.

The Pentagon "story" reeks of a WILD-GOOSE CHASE, intended to divert our attention and divide the truth movement. Any "evidence" by the perpetrators is simply MOOT and worth shit!!!




FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger The Great Revealer said...

The Ashkenazi Khazars are at it again, this time trying to BOMB WITH EXPLOSIVES, but CAUGHT RED-HANDED IN ARGENTINA. Why do these racist Khazar Zionists so perverted?!!

It makes you wonder, that if a "Diplomat" would carry such LARGE QUANTITIES OF EXPLOSIVES, that their MOSSAD agents would be the prime candidate for "car/truck bombs", and assassinations that are so often BLAMED on Muslim men --- when they are the MAIN AGENTS of assassinations, and civilian bombings?!!




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Israeli Diplomat Carrying Large Quantity Of Explosives Arrested In Argentina
23/08/2006
Red Kalki
Last week, (mid August 2006) a very serious event transpired at the Buenos Aires international airport which the local mainstream press did not however bring to the attention of the public. Today, Red Kalki, relying on reliable sources, brings this matter into the open.

On Wednesday 9th August 2006, Ezeiza airport police arrested an important Israeli diplomat carrying a considerable quantity of explosives. The Zionist representative was en route to Chile and was detained minutes before boarding a plane. Despite his protests, airport police arrested him and informed the Argentine interior ministry of the situation which ordered that the situation be contained.

Firstly, it should be noted that the airport police, all ex aeronautical military police, were previously under the control of the Defence ministry and military command. Since the 'Four winds' (drugs) scandal however, control of this unit has passed to political funcionaries of the Kirchner (Argentine President) government. For various reasons, the unit is experiencing serious problems, among which is the precarious nature of their job security caused by the many failures of their new bosses in the interior ministry of the Krichner government and the many conflicts between the two.

According to various airport sources, including the members of the airport security unit, a verbal argument erupted between members of the unit and and members of the Krichner government who wanted to free the Israeli diplomat because there was no precedent for this type of arrest, which included the implication that if anything were happen as a result of the release of the bomb-laden Israeli diplomat, the blame would fall on the airport security unit.

Towards the invention of a "third attack"

For years, various reporters and indepdendent researchers have been highlighting the false nature of the "attacks" on the Israeli embassy in Argentina and on the headquarters of AMIA (Argentine Israelite Mutual Association which was "truck bombed" in July 1997 and the blame placed on Hizb'allah)

For example, the online magazine "Libertad de opinion" conducted an exclusive investigation into the Israeli embassy truck bombing in Buenos Aires in July 1997 (blamed on Islamic Jihad) in which it revealed reports submitted to the Supreme Court by engineers who had studied the scene of the embassy bombing and who asserted that there was in fact no truck bomb, that the building was destroyed by an implosion from within the building and that a crater was created before hand to provide evidence for the claim by local Zionist organisations that a truck bomb was the cause.

In May of 1999, the print edition of the same magazine (Libertad de opinion) published another shocking article in which it revealed the clues and questions that led many investigators to dismiss the "Islamic terrorist" hypothesis and to conclude that the the previously mentioned AMIA bombing in July 1997 was also the result of an internal implosion, on this occasion caused by the detonation of a box full of explosives that had been sent to the AMIA building by an Israeli community in Cordoba.

Today, Red Kalki is publishing details of both events so that readers can analyse and come to their own conclusions.

We observe that, despite the powerful interests who attempted to silence these issues, the claims of the 'Libertad de opinion' publication have stood the test of time, to the extent that, today, those who were originally accused of the "attack" have been freed due to a lack of evidence, and instead the ex-judge and Zionist Galeano, the ex-president of the DAIA (Delegation of Israeli Associations of Argentina) and the well know Zionist conman and bank robber, Ruben Baraja, are instead being prosecuted, while employee of the Argentine daily paper Pagina/12 and peddler of Zionist lies, Raul Kollman, is also being investigated.

A few weeks after Israel initiated its new aggression against Palestine and Lebanon, the Delegation of Israeli Associations of Argentina (DAIA) and the Wiesenthal Center, again began to proclaim to the press that a "third attack" in Argentina was in preparation. At the same time, the White House and the Pentagon began to announce results of their supposed investigations over the "latent dangers" in the Tripe Frontier area (area where the borders of Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay meet) from the presence of the sizable "Arab Islamic community" there, including the suggestion that "al-Qaeda fighters" were ensconsed there.

With the war in the Middle East already begun, and as Red Kalki explained in our analysis of the conflict, a phenomenon, unexpected by Israel, occurred in the form of a unanimous rejection by the European and Latin-American left of organised Zionism. At the same time, South American governments refused to support Israeli terrorist policies, some through conviction and others in order to not appear as allies of colonialism.

In the particular case of Argentina, large-scale demonstrations by the Arab community took place which provoked the anger of local Zionist representatives, to the point that members of the Olmert government sent missives to the DAIA and the AMIA requesting that, in order to show their absolute and unfailing loyalty to Israel, they travel to Israel to personally express their support for the Israeli policy of unbridled genocide.

From all of this, it became clear to the Israelis that their image had passed from that of the victim to the victimiser. They concluded that the peoples of the world no longer looked upon them with pity but with repulsion, and as such, the Israelis are now desperately seeking to find new ways to re-esablish their role as that of the victim, a role which has always served them well to justify the mafia-like patronage of the US and the US military invasions of Israel's neighbors.

According to sources, a dramatic "attack" is being planned for South America, in order to neutralise the growing rejection of Zionist barbarity among South American governments. During the recent conflict, no South American government desired to come out in favor of Israel, and likewise, none wanted to openly criticise Hizb'allah. Given the existing conditions in the country and the militant awakening of the Argentine Islamic community, to the rest of the world a "third Islamic terror attack" in Argentina might appear quite credible. There also exists the possibility of such a 'false flag' attack in Chile where another large Palestinian community resides. Either of these two countries appear as likely targets, keeping in mind the recent news of the arrest of the bomb-laden Israeli diplomat en route to Chile.

The arrest of the diplomat set off alarm bells in the Casa Rosada (Argentina's 'White House'). Instead of making the arrest public and demanding explanations from Tel Aviv, The Kirchner government chose to maintain a disconcerting silence and allowed the days to pass. Rafael Eldad, Israeli ambassador to Argentina and self-declared Zionist fanatic who has had and has sons in the Israeli military, following instructions from the Israeli government, must surely have intervened in a shameless way in the matter of the arrest of the bomb-laden Israeli diplomat.

What will happen in upcoming months?

This is the important question that Argentine security forces are asking. After the Israeli diplomat debacle; will Tel Aviv call off or push forward with a similar "third attack"?

In the Zionist leadership, we notice something of a tendency towards an absolute loss of control caused by the fact that reality is not conforming to its nefarious plans. In an act of rage and impotence at not having achieved its military aims in Lebanon, in the last few days of the conflict, Israeli war planes dropped tons of bombs on Lebanese houses, hospitals, schools and religious temples, reaffirming in this way the genocidal policies of the Israeli invaders.

At the same time, the Zionist leadership in Argentina shares this irrational hatred and is totally subordinate to the directives of the Israeli government. Given this situation, intelligence analysts from various countries agree that it is very difficult to predict the exact nature of the Zionist plans for Argentina and its neighbors.

We hope that the Argentine government will finally do what must be done - reveal what happened at the airport; provide the complete details of the Israeli diplomat's identity; begin the necessary judicial investigation and demand immediate explanations from the Zionist regime in Israel. The Argentine government must also understand that to continue to cover up such matters, involves clearly forseeable risks to the security of the Argentine people and their country.

We at Red Kalki feel that we have done our duty in informing the citizenry.

Translated from the original by Joe Quinn for Signs of the Times.

Editor's note: See this link for details on the abovementioned attacks on Israeli targets in Argentina over the past 15 years.

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Joe said...

Hmm... Michael Rivero at WhatReallyHappened.com linked to this and said:

This, of course, is pure propaganda. This picture of the Pentagon has been on this page for years. The only difference is that the one at wakeupfromyourslumber has been cropped; cropped to CONCEAL the obvious aircraft debris cleared off to one side. The original uncropped photo is HERE and a close-up of the debris, including obvious pieces of luggage, is\ HERE

Now, given that the claim made by wakeupfromyourslumber that you have never seen that photo before is a proven lie, this should underscore that the continuing efforts to sell the "no plane" nonsense is also lacking in any kind of proof.

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Major said...

I sure wish everyone would just stop talking about the Pentagon plane, it's poison in the well. It's also irrelevant in the larger scheme of things. Posting the pic with only the caption "No comment, except to say - look carefully and tell me what you see and what you don't see." was pretty leading. To suggest that you all are somehow deliberately trying to deceive or mislead though is totaly unwarranted. I think it's just a really sore spot for M.R. at W.R.H. He should have emailed you, not thrashed you in public.

Speaking of which, for months I had a "No Planer" (not just the Pentagon, but no planes at all!!) harassing me at home and work, trying to get me to take down all references to planes from my sites. He was quite aggressive, belligerent, and either reeked of psyops or was simply delusional. Whatever the case, it shivered me timbers. I have little patience for the no plane crap now.

Wakeupfromyourslumber.com does a great service, keep it up.

Peacout,

Daniel
www.factivism.com

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Joe said...

I agree. This site does a GREAT job and obviously MR links here a lot. The Pentagon plane issue does seem like a sore spot with him and he always goes off on it.

Nice update to the post, qrswave. Keep up the great work.

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger ralph said...

Why use a photograph taken before the collapse?

http://thewebfairy.com/nerdcities/Pentagon/Valentine/metcalf-1.jpg

what do you see?

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger winnybar said...

The 9/11 Pentagon is the Achilles Heel of the Federal Government as it is easily proven. Rivero claimed Flight 77 hit the Pentagon from Day One and never changed his view in the interim. What does that tell you about him? Who finances that site anyway? The case is closed at the Pentagon as an A3 Skywarrior hit it on 9/11. Photos in this article lay it out:

Smoking Gun Photos
SHUT 9/11 Pentagon Coffin

http://home.att.net/~carlson.jon/coffin.htm

 
At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger nope said...

If the WRH guys see plane parts on this picture they have o lot of imagination. :)

Those who attack disbelievers of the plane-hitting-Pentagon-theory can say moronic things.. They have no idea about laws of physics.
Like here

 
At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger AlreadyPublished said...

The second plane looked similar to a C-130 transport plane, [Wheelhouse] said. He believes it flew
directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to
prevent two planes from appearing on radar
- while at the same time - guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.
Daily Press, 914
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Nothing to see here folks, move along....
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Hampton Roads Woman Says She Too, Saw Plane Following Jet That Hit Pentagon
by Terry Scanlon, Daily Press, September 15, 2001
[...]

"Thank God somebody else saw that. There was most definitely a second plane," Knowles said.

"It's so frustrating because
NOBODY KNOWS about the second plane,
or IF THEY DO they're HIDING IT for some reason.
"
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Nothing to see here folks, move along....
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The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was
a gray C-130, which
appeared to be
a Navy electronic warfare aircraft,
Our Net Family
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Nothing to see here folks, move along....
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At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger Eric Vaughan said...

Most of the readers of "wakeup" and "WRH" must be asking themselves what is all this crap? This is what I think it all is: a disorientation play, simular to what killed Lady Diana, designed to temporarily blind researchers investigating a tricky angle.

On the count of three, you will wake up from your slumber. One. Two. Three. Now, love or hate the people who crashed into the Pentagon, you have to admit that this was a beautiful landing, especially when you consider that the missive will be hitting poles and wires on the way down. More than a couple of seasoned pilots have flown into gullies and such by either slight miscalculations or even wet runways.

I'd love to hear from a missile expert on whether or not they aim these projectiles at the top of three-storey buildings or the side in urban settings and why. Given the state of army retirees, you could probably find one or two that would talk to you for a pack of smokes and a couple of beers.

 
At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger nope said...

I see to my disbelieve that some people take the official photos extremely seriously.. And they use them to "prove" something. That's just pathetic.
It's obvious that some photos were staged and doctored. Especially at Pentagon.
This is an interesting article that says something about the official photographers

 
At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger The Great Revealer said...

This needs to be repeated, and emphasized.

Why get distracted by an event that the ONLY source of "evidence" is the planned released by the orchestrators of 9/11 ---- when we have a MUCH MORE ABUNDENT AND RELIABLE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE concerning the WTC 1&2, and WTC7.

The Pentagon "story" reeks of a WILD-GOOSE CHASE, intended to divert our attention and divide the truth movement. Any "evidence" by the perpetrators is simply MOOT and worth shit!!!




FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TWIN TOWERS 1 &2 ------ AND ESPECIALLY WTC7.

 
At Sunday, September 17, 2006, Blogger Eric Vaughan said...

That's a nice comment on "official" photos. Like a lot of people, digital photography has brought the world of pictures into my realm. To get good at treating them takes lots of practice. Some of the photos I worked on came from websites like yours.

Here's a project or two for better photo finishers than I. Certain shades of blue will just ruin any photo of a black person unless they have very little character in their face. (Like the average 4 year old.) I couldn't understand why these shades were used in conjunction with the New Orleans disaster of 2005. It's not like navy blue tinting actually enhances the seriousness of their plight. Then I came across a bird's eye view aerial photograph of New Orleans from September 1, 2005. That day had weather that was extremely humid so it shouldn't look like Lake Huron on a 70-degree F day. I added a mild dose of pale yellow and the damage done was just unavoidable. At least 10,000 dead, likely way more when you consider that people were going back to protect their stuff when the levee burst.

From the "you've got to start somewhere" department, try doing the black and white wreckage of the USS Liberty like it was a ship portrait. The more you go green to compliment the grey for that battleship blue effect, the more you'll see that there was no real attempt to bore a hole into the core of the ship. Yet it was attacked by unmarked Israeli planes and the fleeing American sailors were fired upon.

I think the survivors were supposed to tell a story about Israel's treachery and when coupled with accounts of Israeli war crimes during the 7 Day War, pro-Israel writers could always claim that the UN investigators were being anti-Semitic just like those bearing the weird tale of that July 1967 sailing misadventure. I think they were poisoning the well (of available information) and Lyndon B. Johnson helped them do it.

 
At Sunday, September 17, 2006, Blogger Eric Vaughan said...

Just for fun, I played around with your image. I was shocked when I tempered the deep reddening with a mild yellow mix for an Atlanta sunset effect. What do you see?

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2uny9n8

When the projectile landed picture perfect on the first floor, it send the fascade straight up leaving a sizeable amount of it still recognizable. The blast tore out anything surrounding it that wasn't part of the basic structure. That would mean that these terrorists who never learned to land a plane crashed it into the Pentagon on the first floor like a bowling ball.

I tell ya, not only does that dog not hunt, it collects welfare under several different aliases, LOL.

 
At Monday, September 18, 2006, Blogger Eric Vaughan said...

I see this board's dead. For the sake of researchers on the topic, you have to ask yourself just who it is who makes this kind of pinpoint landing into a narrow fit like the lower side of the Pentagon with this kind of big bird? You'd definitely want a navy pilot with a couple years of landing on aircraft carriers with fighter jets. I would also think they'd need at least a hundred hours flying experience in that kind of huge jet and as I write that, I get the feeling a professional pilot would laugh at me and say "try at least a thousand hours."

Good luck in your endeavour to fight this kind of Reichstag fire, people. Pretty soon we wont be able to get you on the web here in Canada, but don't lose hope because remember, "the guilty fleeth when there is no lion." That's from the Bible they love to quote so much. (Book of Wisdom, I think.)

 
At Monday, September 18, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Eric, this board is far from dead. A number of people visit this page in search of some new evidence that will help them make up their minds - even though, now I realize that this evidence is not new at all - merely new to me.

Notwithstanding the fact that a number of people have already made up their minds one way or another on this issue, there are still so many unanswered questions - many of which you point out - And people will keep searching until there is no longer any doubt.

 
At Saturday, September 30, 2006, Blogger Eric Vaughan said...

Here's a link no 9/11 buff should be without.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijlmer_disaster

Under Bill Clinton, there wasn't going to be an Iraqi ground war. A few months after this plane disaster, the World Trade Center was hit with a massive bomb. It looks to me like 9/11 wasn't the first choice of these people off their war game contained in the link. (If you can understand that Dresden was the test for the Hiroshima atomic bombing, you'll get this right away. Judicial inc biz has a video on Dresden that all war game fans must see, even if it's biased.)

 
At Saturday, September 30, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

this is the first time I've heard about something like this. I mean, I vaguely remember this plane crash (very vaguely), but the idea of a practice run never occurred to me before.

Thanks. I'll keep it in mind as I do further research.

 

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