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A picture of the Pentagon you've never seen before

No comment, except to say - look carefully and tell me what you see and what you don't see.

UPDATE, in response to MR's comment at WRH: The charge that I meant to mislead anyone with the title is unfair. I have never seen this image before and it's reasonable to think that others may not have seen it either.

Regarding the plane, I deliberately refrained from commenting about whether or not I saw debris of an airliner in this image. First, because I wanted readers to draw their own conclusions, and second, because I didn't think that it was conclusive one way or another, though the folks at Brasscheck, who sent me the link, find it compelling. I've never had reason to question their sincerity as they've sent me a number of valuable links before. At the time I posted this image, I didn't realize, nor did it occur to me, that it was cropped to exclude important evidence.

The only conclusion that I could definitively draw from this image, was that the remains of the building look nothing like the scale of disintegration we saw at the WTC. Same type of plane - with perhaps less fuel. But, there was also much less building to pulverize.

I've never seen the images MR links to at his site. I won't argue that they don't look like debris from a plane - they do - specifically the image that appears to be a portion of the landing gear.

I agree with TGR that it's not helpful to focus too much on whether or not a plane hit the Pentagon - there are people out there who, without having seen all the evidence, cannot possibly distinguish between what is true and what is false. This does not, however, prove that they do so out of malice or with intention to mislead.

Ultimately, the best we can do as a movement is stick together and focus on proving - incontrovertably - that the official version of what really happened at the WTC is a lie, because, like it or not, we're in this together.

Thanks, Brasscheck


At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger akira said...

those poor poor people who had to bear the brunt of a plane slamming into their building so hard that it completely disintegrated, well except for the hijackers' passports probably.

At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Joe said...

Hmm... Michael Rivero at WhatReallyHappened.com linked to this and said:

This, of course, is pure propaganda. This picture of the Pentagon has been on this page for years. The only difference is that the one at wakeupfromyourslumber has been cropped; cropped to CONCEAL the obvious aircraft debris cleared off to one side. The original uncropped photo is HERE and a close-up of the debris, including obvious pieces of luggage, is\ HERE

Now, given that the claim made by wakeupfromyourslumber that you have never seen that photo before is a proven lie, this should underscore that the continuing efforts to sell the "no plane" nonsense is also lacking in any kind of proof.

At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Joe said...

I agree. This site does a GREAT job and obviously MR links here a lot. The Pentagon plane issue does seem like a sore spot with him and he always goes off on it.

Nice update to the post, qrswave. Keep up the great work.

At Friday, September 15, 2006, Blogger Nopes said...

If the WRH guys see plane parts on this picture they have o lot of imagination. :)

Those who attack disbelievers of the plane-hitting-Pentagon-theory can say moronic things.. They have no idea about laws of physics.
Like here

At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger AlreadyPublished said...

The second plane looked similar to a C-130 transport plane, [Wheelhouse] said. He believes it flew
directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to
prevent two planes from appearing on radar
- while at the same time - guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.
Daily Press, 914
Nothing to see here folks, move along....

Hampton Roads Woman Says She Too, Saw Plane Following Jet That Hit Pentagon
by Terry Scanlon, Daily Press, September 15, 2001

"Thank God somebody else saw that. There was most definitely a second plane," Knowles said.

"It's so frustrating because
NOBODY KNOWS about the second plane,
or IF THEY DO they're HIDING IT for some reason.
Nothing to see here folks, move along....

The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was
a gray C-130, which
appeared to be
a Navy electronic warfare aircraft,
Our Net Family
Nothing to see here folks, move along....

At Saturday, September 16, 2006, Blogger Nopes said...

I see to my disbelieve that some people take the official photos extremely seriously.. And they use them to "prove" something. That's just pathetic.
It's obvious that some photos were staged and doctored. Especially at Pentagon.
This is an interesting article that says something about the official photographers

At Monday, September 18, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

Eric, this board is far from dead. A number of people visit this page in search of some new evidence that will help them make up their minds - even though, now I realize that this evidence is not new at all - merely new to me.

Notwithstanding the fact that a number of people have already made up their minds one way or another on this issue, there are still so many unanswered questions - many of which you point out - And people will keep searching until there is no longer any doubt.

At Saturday, September 30, 2006, Blogger qrswave said...

this is the first time I've heard about something like this. I mean, I vaguely remember this plane crash (very vaguely), but the idea of a practice run never occurred to me before.

Thanks. I'll keep it in mind as I do further research.


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